Watching the races yesterday and today, I think we were pretty lucky
that none of the cars that got into the infield grass "hooked" in the
soft grass and started flipping.
Here’s what I’m wondering–have the folks at Daytona not thought about
installing a drainage system to take a lot of that water away? The
sports stadiums on the peninsula all seem to have special turf and
sand/clay bases, as well as a drainage system, that allow a lot of
water to pass right through. At Daytona, it just seems to puddle.
An added benefit would be that when a car gets into the grass in, say,
the tri-oval, it wouldn’t be throwing all the mud up onto the track.
It would speed clean-up, and it would reduce the possibility of a car
coming along spinning on the mud that has been thrown up.
take care,
Scott
I’m sure that they have already thought of that. Create a mound or dome like
surface and install sand solution like what they do on greens on golf
courses? I don’t know what would be best. My thought is why they haven’t
done anything is is because no matter how much money they put into it the
water table will win the battle.
"Scott Stevenson" <almostfm.AMS…@UCKSAY.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Watching the races yesterday and today, I think we were pretty lucky
> that none of the cars that got into the infield grass "hooked" in the
> soft grass and started flipping.
> Here’s what I’m wondering–have the folks at Daytona not thought about
> installing a drainage system to take a lot of that water away? The
> sports stadiums on the peninsula all seem to have special turf and
> sand/clay bases, as well as a drainage system, that allow a lot of
> water to pass right through. At Daytona, it just seems to puddle.
> An added benefit would be that when a car gets into the grass in, say,
> the tri-oval, it wouldn’t be throwing all the mud up onto the track.
> It would speed clean-up, and it would reduce the possibility of a car
> coming along spinning on the mud that has been thrown up.
> take care,
> Scott
almostfm.AMS…@UCKSAY.comcast.net (Scott Stevenson) wrote in
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> Watching the races yesterday and today, I think we were pretty lucky
> that none of the cars that got into the infield grass "hooked" in the
> soft grass and started flipping.
I don’t think that’s really a concern. What seems to cause problems
is when a car slides in the grass and then hits pavement (edge of
the track, an access road, etc). Having a lot of water in the
grass doesn’t seem to affect that (if anything, it seems to help,
since the cars sort of float on top of it).
John
"Draft" <dr…@optonline.net> wrote in
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> I’m sure that they have already thought of that. Create a mound or
> dome like surface and install sand solution like what they do on
> greens on golf courses? I don’t know what would be best. My thought is
> why they haven’t done anything is is because no matter how much money
> they put into it the water table will win the battle.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m guessing the native soil is sand. You can pump
water out of the sand, but you will probably have an equal amount flow in
laterally from surrounding areas as quick as you can pump. If the elevation
of the flooded area is lower than the areas outside the track, there’s not
much you can do to stop water from migrating in and replacing what you’ve
just pumped out.
Bud
"Scott Stevenson" <almostfm.AMS…@UCKSAY.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Watching the races yesterday and today, I think we were pretty lucky
> that none of the cars that got into the infield grass "hooked" in the
> soft grass and started flipping.
As you saw, the car slides very nicely on the very wet grass. The problem
with grass is not the car "hooking" in the grass, but it’s the sudden change
in friction when it enounters pavement areas interspersed in the grass area.
That sudden increase in friction is a real nusance. That’s why tracks have
gone to an all pavement area between the track and the inside wall – to keep
a constant in place. We really weren’t lucky at all Saturday night. Look
back at all of the track miles that have been put on at tracks with grass
and you’ll see that though this is an issue of sorts, it’s not a pending
doom sort of issue.
> Here’s what I’m wondering–have the folks at Daytona not thought about
> installing a drainage system to take a lot of that water away? The
> sports stadiums on the peninsula all seem to have special turf and
> sand/clay bases, as well as a drainage system, that allow a lot of
> water to pass right through. At Daytona, it just seems to puddle.
Perhaps – I really don’t know squat about the other stadiums in the area,
but this does occur to me – how many of those stadiums have a surface the
size of the racing surface at Daytona, pouring all of their water into the
infield? I’m just sitting here wondering how effective their drainage
systems would be if they experienced the same conditions that the track
does. We’ve all seen even very large storm sewers overwhelmed by rains –
how big of a system would Daytona need to handle the water it receives?
> An added benefit would be that when a car gets into the grass in, say,
> the tri-oval, it wouldn’t be throwing all the mud up onto the track.
> It would speed clean-up, and it would reduce the possibility of a car
> coming along spinning on the mud that has been thrown up.
Oh come on Scott – that’s part of racing. Didn’t you see Days of Thunder?
Didn’t you see how muddy every car got – even on paved tracks?….
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-Mike-
mmar…@alltel.net