NASCAR and Stockcar Racing

O.K. Mike Joy – a tough question for you

The NASCAR fans are waiting: what is the "official" reason why there was
no rebroadcast of the Busch race from 4/1, even though it was promised?
Be honest – does CBS/TNN even care? It does’nt seem so.

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Comments (11)




11 Responses to “O.K. Mike Joy – a tough question for you”

  1. admin says:

    I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to Rea
    McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race on.
    Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

  2. admin says:

    two00…@aol.com (Two00mph) wrote:
    >I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to Rea
    >McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    >CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race on.
    >Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

    I wasn’t aware of perfectparanoia.com until you posted it. It’s a
    decent site and it takes guts for you, Bob Jenkins, and others to
    publicly post your E-mail addresses.

    But it even takes more guts for you to participate in
    r.a.s.n.unmoderated! ;-)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    H.B. Elkins mailto:hbelk…@mis.net
    http://www.users.mis.net/~hbelkins
    "Nobody promised you it’d be easy, nor even fair." — Lemmy Kilmister
    Earnhardt, D. Waltrip, Kentucky, Anybody but Gordon, Anybody but North Carolina
    To reply, you gotta do what NASCAR won’t — remove the restrictor plates!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

  3. admin says:

    I’m unable to find the link to the article referenced here (Rea
    McElroy’s).  Could someone please post the link?

    Thanx,
    JerryH

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    On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:11:27 GMT, two00…@aol.com (Two00mph) wrote:
    >I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to Rea
    >McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    >CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race on.
    >Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

  4. admin says:

    Jerald Holmes <jerryhNOS…@ccsi.com> wrote in message

    news:38eb5d62.7146762@newshost.ccsi.com…

    > I’m unable to find the link to the article referenced here (Rea
    > McElroy’s).  Could someone please post the link?

    > Thanx,
    > JerryH

    Here ya go, neighbor…(we’re just north of Dallas for awhile!)

    http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/autos/rnotes4.shtml

    T’was in tiny font over on the left side of the perfectparanoia page.

    ….and my thanks to Mike for staying in touch and handling the tough ones.

    Tom…in Texas…useta was Sacramento

  5. admin says:

    I agree with this (your posting). I can’t understand why some people get upset
    when a race broadcast is in "up in the air" status. And get bent on it. It is
    frustrating but I’m always sure the networks are working hard to bring the
    coverage to their viewers. If the networks could post a scrolling message at the
    end of the scheduled broadcast time (I don’t know if they do) notifying the
    viewers that the current status of the race, that could be of help. NASCAR
    officials could be more communicative when races are delayed/post phoned.

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    Two00mph wrote:
    > I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to Rea
    > McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    > CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race on.
    > Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

  6. admin says:

    In article <20000405002346.15984.00001…@ng-cj1.aol.com>, two00…@aol.com

    (Two00mph) writes:
    >CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race
    >on.
    >Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime

    I don’t know about the rest of the world, but an animated movie does not equal
    NASCAR ratings here in the TN mountains!
    R&R Collectables!
    http://randrcollectables.com

  7. admin says:

    I am not surprised that the broadcasters would rather go back to the hotel
    and eat a steak and drink a beer than to do a night race when a day race was
    scheduled.

    I am not surprised, but I sure as heck am disappointed, especially when they
    announced that the race would continue on TNN and then didn’t continue it.
    I don’t know where truth begins and ends any more.

    I just don’t think racing fans get any respect from broadcast stations.
    They would never do this to a hockey game or to a baseball game.

    Amusingly, I was listening to the radio broadcast.  About 1/2 hour before
    the race restarted, one of the announcers breathlessly stated that they were
    going to get back with NASCAR and make sure that the race hadn’t been
    cancelled because they looked into the CBS suite next door and the lights
    were out and the suite was vacated.  So, they were wondering if CBS knew the
    race was called and they weren’t told.

    Then, they came back a few minutes later and said they were almost ready to
    get underway, and to continue to stand by!!!

    God bless those radio broadcasters.

    "Two00mph" <two00…@aol.com> wrote in message

    news:20000405002346.15984.00001177@ng-cj1.aol.com…

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    > I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to
    Rea
    > McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    > CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race
    on.
    > Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

  8. admin says:

    I think you folks misunderstand.  TNN did not CHOOSE to show a movie instead.
    When CBS handed the race off to TNN, TNN was prepared to broadcast it when it
    resumed.  
    Only after eating considerable hours of overtime costs with Mother Nature not
    releasing her grip on the weather, CBS cut the cord, and released all the crew
    onsite.  There was no coverage to broadcast.  Blame the extended weather delay.

  9. admin says:

    On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:11:27 GMT, two00…@aol.com (Two00mph) wrote:
    >I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to Rea
    >McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    >CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race on.
    >Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

    While I only mildly disagree with the decision to bail out of the
    coverage, I’m considerably annoyed at the complete inability to find
    out that that’s what occurred.  

    Nascar’s web site said nothing about the coverage drop, even though
    they obviously had someone standing by to do main-page updates when
    the race resumed.  CBS and country.com sites said nothing.  That’s
    nothing unusual — Espn can’t be bothered to have a place for
    last-minute schedule changes on their site either.

    Of course, those with web access are only a part of the audience
    (hmmm, how big a part?).  But we can still hope that next year’s
    networks can use the size of the tv contracts as leverage with Nascar.
    An up-to-the-minute tv schedule ought to be readily available on
    Nascar.com.  If you’re paying Nascar big bucks for the rights, Nascar
    ought to be doing their part to tell the audience air dates and times.

    After all, in the case at hand, if CBS/TNN knew an audience would be
    able to find the race, that might have increased the justification to
    go ahead and produce a tape for a midnight-or-so broadcast.

    Matt Thul
    [to reply via email, please delete 'dont.spam.' from my address]

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    Matt Thul wrote:
    > On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:11:27 GMT, two00…@aol.com (Two00mph) wrote:

    > >I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to Rea
    > >McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    > >CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race on.
    > >Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

    > While I only mildly disagree with the decision to bail out of the
    > coverage, I’m considerably annoyed at the complete inability to find
    > out that that’s what occurred.

    > Nascar’s web site said nothing about the coverage drop, even though
    > they obviously had someone standing by to do main-page updates when
    > the race resumed.  CBS and country.com sites said nothing.  That’s
    > nothing unusual — Espn can’t be bothered to have a place for
    > last-minute schedule changes on their site either.

    I agree that the websites should be able to provide updates but I’m sure everyone
    is waiting on NASCAR’s decision whether to run the race or not. If NASCAR did not
    inform anyone of any change in their schedule, then I would assume that the race is
    still on. And that is what the websites did….report nothing so surfers can hit
    their sites more and more. I think NASCAR did have everyone hanging but that is
    what they usually do. And having ESPN pick up the coverage is simply out of the
    question since ESPN is part of ABC.

    > Of course, those with web access are only a part of the audience
    > (hmmm, how big a part?).  But we can still hope that next year’s
    > networks can use the size of the tv contracts as leverage with Nascar.
    > An up-to-the-minute tv schedule ought to be readily available on
    > Nascar.com.  If you’re paying Nascar big bucks for the rights, Nascar
    > ought to be doing their part to tell the audience air dates and times.

    Well, truthfully, it’s the track owners getting paid by the tv networks, not
    NASCAR. Next year, not only the Nets will be paying NASCAR for the coverage rites
    but NASCAR will have the leverage on the Nets. NASCAR will determine what goes on
    at races next year as far as coverage goes to the extent of their contract
    agreements. But you’re right, NASCAR ought to be doing the right part informing
    audiences as well as all of the people involved.

    > After all, in the case at hand, if CBS/TNN knew an audience would be
    > able to find the race, that might have increased the justification to
    > go ahead and produce a tape for a midnight-or-so broadcast.

    And miss Howard Stern?

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    > Matt Thul
    > [to reply via email, please delete 'dont.spam.' from my address]

  11. admin says:

    I was also looking forward to watching the race as well but I understand that I
    am not the only one watching CBS/TNN. I also understand that the networks work
    on a well thought out tentative schedule to it’s viewers but when it rains, and
    the race is greatly delayed, I understand that there are other viewers tuned in
    to watch other programs on this station. I’m not saying that I wanted to watch
    "18 Wheels of Justice" or "The Grand Ole Opery" or anything else that was
    scheduled. But I’m not going to start yelling at my tv saying "Com’on, where the
    hell is the race?" for 8 hours. I’m sure that the CBS crew just sat there and
    waited till further word from NASCAR. It’s a tough situation. It had to deal
    with the situation where the crews had to be let go’ed in order for them to be
    prepared for the next day’s race along with a long list of other variables
    involved. The sport is not like baseball where all 50 teams can pack up and come
    back at a later date and play a double-header. Or like hockey where it’s played
    in a controlled atmosphere. NASCAR and the Nets do the best they can to bring
    the show to the fans.

    Although this has no bearing on your disappointment. Think what you want. But I
    think that your expectations cannot be met every week.

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    Tommy Wood wrote:
    > I am not surprised that the broadcasters would rather go back to the hotel
    > and eat a steak and drink a beer than to do a night race when a day race was
    > scheduled.

    > I am not surprised, but I sure as heck am disappointed, especially when they
    > announced that the race would continue on TNN and then didn’t continue it.
    > I don’t know where truth begins and ends any more.

    > I just don’t think racing fans get any respect from broadcast stations.
    > They would never do this to a hockey game or to a baseball game.

    > Amusingly, I was listening to the radio broadcast.  About 1/2 hour before
    > the race restarted, one of the announcers breathlessly stated that they were
    > going to get back with NASCAR and make sure that the race hadn’t been
    > cancelled because they looked into the CBS suite next door and the lights
    > were out and the suite was vacated.  So, they were wondering if CBS knew the
    > race was called and they weren’t told.

    > Then, they came back a few minutes later and said they were almost ready to
    > get underway, and to continue to stand by!!!

    > God bless those radio broadcasters.

    > "Two00mph" <two00…@aol.com> wrote in message
    > news:20000405002346.15984.00001177@ng-cj1.aol.com…
    > > I’ve posted my response on http://www.perfectparanoia.com.  Also see a lead to
    > Rea
    > > McElroy’s story on jayski quoting a TNN spokesperson.

    > > CBS and TNN care very much and went the extra mile to try and put the race
    > on.
    > > Mother Nature wouldnt co-operate within a reasonable amount of overtime.

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