Comments on: NASCAR screwed up on the Call. http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:04:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-305 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:45 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-305 The only time I ever heard of NASCAR changing a ruling was over the lap count, <br /> but not recently. <br /> DJ was never able to retake his place at The Glen last year over the smoke. <br /> <p>Was Jeff unfairly treated???  Watch the next several races.  Remember what <br /> happened the last time my Jersey Warriors got ticked off. <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>Mike McGuigan wrote: <br /> <p>> Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490...@news1.ibm.net>... <br /> > >I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that <br /> > >fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would <br /> > >have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in <br /> > >under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed <br /> > >him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very <br /> > >disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something <br /> > >away from Martin's win.  What if Gordon hadn't been relegated to 9th.. <br /> > >Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that <br /> > >NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship <br /> > >the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer. <br /> </p><p>> I agree on the call.  Being a big JG fan, I'm just glad there were only 8-9 <br /> > cars on the lead lap.  Luckily, for NASCAR, I don't think it affected the <br /> > outcome of the race, MM had the better car and showed at the end he was <br /> > faster than JG. <br /> </p><p>> Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race? <br /> <br /> </p> The only time I ever heard of NASCAR changing a ruling was over the lap count,
but not recently.
DJ was never able to retake his place at The Glen last year over the smoke.

Was Jeff unfairly treated???  Watch the next several races.  Remember what
happened the last time my Jersey Warriors got ticked off.

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Mike McGuigan wrote:

> Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490…@news1.ibm.net>…
> >I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that
> >fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would
> >have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in
> >under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed
> >him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very
> >disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something
> >away from Martin’s win.  What if Gordon hadn’t been relegated to 9th..
> >Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that
> >NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship
> >the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer.

> I agree on the call.  Being a big JG fan, I’m just glad there were only 8-9
> cars on the lead lap.  Luckily, for NASCAR, I don’t think it affected the
> outcome of the race, MM had the better car and showed at the end he was
> faster than JG.

> Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race?

]]> By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-304 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:44 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-304 <p>os...@commkey.net wrote: <br /> <br />: If he had rubbed with someone during the race,and pulled the air dam <br /> : out,it would have been legal. Repositioning the air dam does add some amount <br /> : of aerodynamic help to the car,and he was legitimately <br /> : penalized for it. NASCAR has been inconsistent this year on some of <br /> : their calls,but this was not one of those times. <br /> </p><p>Excuse me!  Did I miss something?  Nowhere have I read anything that says <br /> that anyone had repositioned the air dam. <br /> </p> os…@commkey.net wrote:

: If he had rubbed with someone during the race,and pulled the air dam
: out,it would have been legal. Repositioning the air dam does add some amount
: of aerodynamic help to the car,and he was legitimately
: penalized for it. NASCAR has been inconsistent this year on some of
: their calls,but this was not one of those times.

Excuse me!  Did I miss something?  Nowhere have I read anything that says
that anyone had repositioned the air dam.

]]> By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-303 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:40 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-303 <p></p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490...@news1.ibm.net>... <br /> >I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that <br /> >fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would <br /> >have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in <br /> >under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed <br /> >him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very <br /> >disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something <br /> >away from Martin's win.  What if Gordon hadn't been relegated to 9th.. <br /> >Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that <br /> >NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship <br /> >the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer. <br /> <p>>And how 'bout that Kennseth kid.. WoW! Bill must be proud.. <br /> >Condolences to Bill and his family. <br /> </p><p>>Sparky <br /> <br />If he had rubbed with someone during the race,and pulled the air dam <br /> out,it would have been legal. Repositioning the air dam does add some amount <br /> of aerodynamic help to the car,and he was legitimately <br /> penalized for it. NASCAR has been inconsistent this year on some of <br /> their calls,but this was not one of those times. <br /> </p>

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Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490…@news1.ibm.net>…
>I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that
>fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would
>have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in
>under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed
>him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very
>disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something
>away from Martin’s win.  What if Gordon hadn’t been relegated to 9th..
>Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that
>NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship
>the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer.

>And how ’bout that Kennseth kid.. WoW! Bill must be proud..
>Condolences to Bill and his family.

>Sparky

If he had rubbed with someone during the race,and pulled the air dam
out,it would have been legal. Repositioning the air dam does add some amount
of aerodynamic help to the car,and he was legitimately
penalized for it. NASCAR has been inconsistent this year on some of
their calls,but this was not one of those times.

]]> By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-302 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:37 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-302 I too am a Gordon fan, but I think it was just a judgement call.  I don't <br /> believe it affected the outcome at all anyway, Martin had everybody beat. <br /> <p>Mark <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490...@news1.ibm.net>... <br /> >I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that <br /> >fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would <br /> >have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in <br /> >under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed <br /> >him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very <br /> >disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something <br /> >away from Martin's win.  What if Gordon hadn't been relegated to 9th.. <br /> >Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that <br /> >NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship <br /> >the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer. <br /> <p>>And how 'bout that Kennseth kid.. WoW! Bill must be proud.. <br /> >Condolences to Bill and his family. <br /> </p><p>>Sparky <br /> <br /> </p> I too am a Gordon fan, but I think it was just a judgement call.  I don’t
believe it affected the outcome at all anyway, Martin had everybody beat.

Mark

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Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490…@news1.ibm.net>…
>I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that
>fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would
>have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in
>under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed
>him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very
>disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something
>away from Martin’s win.  What if Gordon hadn’t been relegated to 9th..
>Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that
>NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship
>the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer.

>And how ’bout that Kennseth kid.. WoW! Bill must be proud..
>Condolences to Bill and his family.

>Sparky

]]> By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-301 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:35 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-301 <p>>Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race? <br /> <br />I remember one time DE got called back in the pits because an official <br /> "thought" there was only four lugnuts on a wheel. As it turned out 1 of the <br /> lugnuts were black and the rest were gold colored. I dont remember the outcome <br /> but I think they let Dale recover his position where he was before they called <br /> him in. Correct me if I am wrong. <br /> </p><p>Richie   WWW.RACECONSULTANT.COM Your link to motorsports marketing and racing <br /> sponsorship.   <br /> </p> >Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race?

I remember one time DE got called back in the pits because an official
"thought" there was only four lugnuts on a wheel. As it turned out 1 of the
lugnuts were black and the rest were gold colored. I dont remember the outcome
but I think they let Dale recover his position where he was before they called
him in. Correct me if I am wrong.

Richie   http://WWW.RACECONSULTANT.COM Your link to motorsports marketing and racing
sponsorship.  

]]> By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-300 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:33 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-300 <p>"Mike McGuigan" (mcgui...@mindspring.com) writes: <br /> > I agree on the call.  Being a big JG fan, I'm just glad there were only 8-9 <br /> > cars on the lead lap.  Luckily, for NASCAR, I don't think it affected the <br /> > outcome of the race, MM had the better car and showed at the end he was <br /> > faster than JG. <br /> </p><p>> Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race? <br /> <br />Well, the infamous "missing lug nut case" comes to mind. <br /> </p><p>An inspector thought there was a lug nut missing on Earnhardt's car and <br /> they called him back in.  This was under green and DE lost a lap. <br /> </p><p>A short time later they threw a caution and waved him by the pace car <br /> giving him back the lap he lost.   <br /> </p><p>Childress protested the race because Gordon also benefitted from the <br /> yellow.  Guess that's why they usually just let a bad call stand..... <br /> -- <br /> *  Bob Paxton                 | Fight Spam, join CAUCE,  it's free         * <br /> *  paxto...@popmail.firn.edu  |  http://www.cauce.org                      * <br /> *  http://www.nefec.org/bobp  |                                            * <br /> *  Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati                                            * <br /> </p> "Mike McGuigan" (mcgui…@mindspring.com) writes:
> I agree on the call.  Being a big JG fan, I’m just glad there were only 8-9
> cars on the lead lap.  Luckily, for NASCAR, I don’t think it affected the
> outcome of the race, MM had the better car and showed at the end he was
> faster than JG.

> Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race?

Well, the infamous "missing lug nut case" comes to mind.

An inspector thought there was a lug nut missing on Earnhardt’s car and
they called him back in.  This was under green and DE lost a lap.

A short time later they threw a caution and waved him by the pace car
giving him back the lap he lost.  

Childress protested the race because Gordon also benefitted from the
yellow.  Guess that’s why they usually just let a bad call stand…..
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]]> By: admin http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call/comment-page-1#comment-299 admin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:16:29 +0000 http://www.nascarracingclub.com/nascar-screwed-up-on-the-call#comment-299 <p>Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490...@news1.ibm.net>... <br /> >I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that <br /> >fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would <br /> >have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in <br /> >under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed <br /> >him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very <br /> >disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something <br /> >away from Martin's win.  What if Gordon hadn't been relegated to 9th.. <br /> >Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that <br /> >NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship <br /> >the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer. <br /> <br />I agree on the call.  Being a big JG fan, I'm just glad there were only 8-9 <br /> cars on the lead lap.  Luckily, for NASCAR, I don't think it affected the <br /> outcome of the race, MM had the better car and showed at the end he was <br /> faster than JG. <br /> </p><p>Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race? <br /> </p> Sparky wrote in message <36063493.72490…@news1.ibm.net>…
>I cannot believe that NASCAR callled Gordon into the pits for that
>fender flare.  If they really wanted to flare it out, all they would
>have had to do was a light rub on someone.. Once they brought him in
>under the black flag and found nothing wrong, they should have allowed
>him to return to his position under the caution.  I am very
>disappointed with the call and believe it actually takes something
>away from Martin’s win.  What if Gordon hadn’t been relegated to 9th..
>Would Mark of still won?  I respect both drivers a lot and feel that
>NASCAR should just back off and let these guys decide the championship
>the gentlemenly way like they would both prefer.

I agree on the call.  Being a big JG fan, I’m just glad there were only 8-9
cars on the lead lap.  Luckily, for NASCAR, I don’t think it affected the
outcome of the race, MM had the better car and showed at the end he was
faster than JG.

Has NASCAR ever tried to correct an error they made during a race?

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