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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  Crusader wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Pretty important issue, some solutions, certainly not from NA$CAR. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Wow, what competitors had to say about Rusty! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Interesting article. &#160;I can&#039;t say I agree with them totally, but it WAS &lt;br /&gt; very interesting. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for penalizing drivers for hitting crew members, I don&#039;t think they &lt;br /&gt; should unless it was intentional. &#160;I can only imagine how incredibly &lt;br /&gt; difficult it must be to do a pit. &#160;Imagine driving down the freeway at &lt;br /&gt; 55 mph and coming to a complete stop in a tiny little box between two &lt;br /&gt; other cars all while a bunch of pedestrians are running around &lt;br /&gt; everywhere. &#160;Accidents are going to happen. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, if the driver is being reckless, does it intentionally, or is not &lt;br /&gt; following the rules (i.e. speeding on pit road), then that&#039;s another &lt;br /&gt; story entirely... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And I&#039;m sure the crew members themselves are sometimes to blame. &#160;I&#039;m &lt;br /&gt; not saying they deliberately put themselves in harm&#039;s way, but they can &lt;br /&gt; be just as careless as drivers and may wander into the path of the cars. &lt;br /&gt; &#160; I&#039;ve seen lots of them working outside the pit box. &#160;I&#039;ve seen them &lt;br /&gt; running down pit road chasing tires. &#160;I&#039;ve seen them flat out get in the &lt;br /&gt; way. &#160;So maybe there should be some rules about WHERE the pit crew can &lt;br /&gt; go and where they can&#039;t. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I happen to agree with the comments about widening the pit boxes. &#160;If &lt;br /&gt; you&#039;ve ever seen one up close and personal, you&#039;ll have to agree they&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; not very big. &#160;It&#039;s incredibly miraculous to me that the drivers manage &lt;br /&gt; to park in it at all. &#160;I mean, we&#039;re talking not much larger than a &lt;br /&gt; regular parking space, and they are parallel parking in it without ever &lt;br /&gt; backing up! &#160;There&#039;s not much room left over for the crews, and they are &lt;br /&gt; often outside of the pit box while working. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crusader wrote: <br /> &gt; Pretty important issue, some solutions, certainly not from NA$CAR. <br /> &gt; Wow, what competitors had to say about Rusty! <br /> 
<p>&gt; <a href="http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%.." rel="nofollow">http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%..</a>. </p>
<p>Interesting article. &nbsp;I can&#8217;t say I agree with them totally, but it WAS <br /> very interesting.  </p>
<p>As for penalizing drivers for hitting crew members, I don&#8217;t think they <br /> should unless it was intentional. &nbsp;I can only imagine how incredibly <br /> difficult it must be to do a pit. &nbsp;Imagine driving down the freeway at <br /> 55 mph and coming to a complete stop in a tiny little box between two <br /> other cars all while a bunch of pedestrians are running around <br /> everywhere. &nbsp;Accidents are going to happen.  </p>
<p>Now, if the driver is being reckless, does it intentionally, or is not <br /> following the rules (i.e. speeding on pit road), then that&#8217;s another <br /> story entirely&#8230;  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure the crew members themselves are sometimes to blame. &nbsp;I&#8217;m <br /> not saying they deliberately put themselves in harm&#8217;s way, but they can <br /> be just as careless as drivers and may wander into the path of the cars. <br /> &nbsp; I&#8217;ve seen lots of them working outside the pit box. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve seen them <br /> running down pit road chasing tires. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve seen them flat out get in the <br /> way. &nbsp;So maybe there should be some rules about WHERE the pit crew can <br /> go and where they can&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>I happen to agree with the comments about widening the pit boxes. &nbsp;If <br /> you&#8217;ve ever seen one up close and personal, you&#8217;ll have to agree they&#8217;re <br /> not very big. &nbsp;It&#8217;s incredibly miraculous to me that the drivers manage <br /> to park in it at all. &nbsp;I mean, we&#8217;re talking not much larger than a <br /> regular parking space, and they are parallel parking in it without ever <br /> backing up! &nbsp;There&#8217;s not much room left over for the crews, and they are <br /> often outside of the pit box while working. </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  On 14 May 2005 22:50:02 GMT, John McCoy &lt;igop...@ix.netcom.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; ... &quot;With all the weather that we had at Darlington, the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; schedule was shortened,&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;Jeff Gordon said. &quot;With all the changes that we had to make in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;practice, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; I&#039;m not sure what kind of problem he means. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Probably that the change in the weather meant they had to change &lt;br /&gt; &gt;a bunch of stuff (springs, shocks, etc) on the car, more so than &lt;br /&gt; &gt;usual, and that delayed them. &#160;I think he&#039;s asking for a little &lt;br /&gt; &gt;slack to be given, on those occasions when teams might be expected &lt;br /&gt; &gt;to have more than the usual amount of work to do. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;You may deliver me a dope slap upside the head the next &lt;br /&gt; time you see me. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Of course that&#039;s what he meant! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My bad. &#160;:o( &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;I can see clearly now, the clouds have gone. &lt;br /&gt; I can see all obstacles in my way.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 14 May 2005 22:50:02 GMT, John McCoy &lt;igop&#8230;@ix.netcom.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230; &quot;With all the weather that we had at Darlington, the <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; schedule was shortened,&quot; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Jeff Gordon said. &quot;With all the changes that we had to make in <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;practice, <br /> &gt;&gt; I&#8217;m not sure what kind of problem he means. <br /> &gt;Probably that the change in the weather meant they had to change <br /> &gt;a bunch of stuff (springs, shocks, etc) on the car, more so than <br /> &gt;usual, and that delayed them. &nbsp;I think he&#8217;s asking for a little <br /> &gt;slack to be given, on those occasions when teams might be expected <br /> &gt;to have more than the usual amount of work to do. </p>
<p>You may deliver me a dope slap upside the head the next <br /> time you see me.  </p>
<p>Of course that&#8217;s what he meant!  </p>
<p>My bad. &nbsp;:o(  </p>
<p>&quot;I can see clearly now, the clouds have gone. <br /> I can see all obstacles in my way.&quot;  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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  &quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; &lt;mole...@canisius.edu&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; news:vhpc81lucp7m3et3k9777ri12rph2ffvib@4ax.com: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; On 14 May 2005 18:30:16 GMT, &quot;Crusader&quot; &lt;cr...@comcast.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;I don&#039;t think i&#039;ve ever heard of this NA$CAR penalty before, u? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; ... &#160; Late arrivals lose practice time &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Nope. &#160;It&#039;s new to me. &#160;(Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean much. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; can be monstrously inattentive when I wanna be.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;New to me, too. &#160;I&#039;ve heard of them holding a team out from practice &lt;br /&gt; at a race for various indiscretions at _that race_, but not to carry &lt;br /&gt; it onward to the next race. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; ... &quot;With all the weather that we had at Darlington, the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; schedule was shortened,&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;Jeff Gordon said. &quot;With all the changes that we had to make in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;practice, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;snip&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I&#039;m not sure what kind of problem he means. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Probably that the change in the weather meant they had to change &lt;br /&gt; a bunch of stuff (springs, shocks, etc) on the car, more so than &lt;br /&gt; usual, and that delayed them. &#160;I think he&#039;s asking for a little &lt;br /&gt; slack to be given, on those occasions when teams might be expected &lt;br /&gt; to have more than the usual amount of work to do. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; &lt;mole&#8230;@canisius.edu&gt; wrote in <br /> news:vhpc81lucp7m3et3k9777ri12rph2ffvib@4ax.com: <br /> 
<p>&gt; On 14 May 2005 18:30:16 GMT, &quot;Crusader&quot; &lt;cr&#8230;@comcast.net&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;I don&#8217;t think i&#8217;ve ever heard of this NA$CAR penalty before, u?  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &#8230; &nbsp; Late arrivals lose practice time  </p>
<p>&gt; Nope. &nbsp;It&#8217;s new to me. &nbsp;(Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean much. &nbsp;I <br /> &gt; can be monstrously inattentive when I wanna be.) </p>
<p>New to me, too. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve heard of them holding a team out from practice <br /> at a race for various indiscretions at _that race_, but not to carry <br /> it onward to the next race.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230; &quot;With all the weather that we had at Darlington, the <br /> &gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; schedule was shortened,&quot; <br /> &gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Jeff Gordon said. &quot;With all the changes that we had to make in <br /> &gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;practice, </p>
<p>&lt;snip&gt;  </p>
<p>&gt; I&#8217;m not sure what kind of problem he means. </p>
<p>Probably that the change in the weather meant they had to change <br /> a bunch of stuff (springs, shocks, etc) on the car, more so than <br /> usual, and that delayed them. &nbsp;I think he&#8217;s asking for a little <br /> slack to be given, on those occasions when teams might be expected <br /> to have more than the usual amount of work to do.  </p>
<p>John </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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  On 14 May 2005 18:30:16 GMT, &quot;Crusader&quot; &lt;cr...@comcast.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;I don&#039;t think i&#039;ve ever heard of this NA$CAR penalty before, u? &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; ... &#160; Late arrivals lose practice time &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Nope. &#160;It&#039;s new to me. &#160;(Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean much. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; can be monstrously inattentive when I wanna be.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; ... &quot;With all the weather that we had at Darlington, the schedule was shortened,&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;Jeff Gordon said. &quot;With all the changes that we had to make in practice, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;we lost a lot of time and we paid the price big time for it. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;I understand what NASCAR&#039;s doing. They need to keep the inspection line on time, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; ***but I think when you&#039;ve got 11 or 12 cars, and top teams, that are &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;late to the inspection line, there&#039;s obviously a problem there beyond just &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160;the teams lagging behind.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not sure what kind of problem he means. &#160;Traffic? &lt;br /&gt; Delay at the gates? &#160;Parking problems? &#160;Something else &lt;br /&gt; that is NASCAR&#039;s fault rather than the teams&#039; fault? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sounds like another shot across the bow in the war for &lt;br /&gt; good behavior. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 14 May 2005 18:30:16 GMT, &quot;Crusader&quot; &lt;cr&#8230;@comcast.net&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;I don&#8217;t think i&#8217;ve ever heard of this NA$CAR penalty before, u? <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &#8230; &nbsp; Late arrivals lose practice time </p>
<p>Nope. &nbsp;It&#8217;s new to me. &nbsp;(Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean much. &nbsp;I <br /> can be monstrously inattentive when I wanna be.)  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230; &quot;With all the weather that we had at Darlington, the schedule was shortened,&quot; <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Jeff Gordon said. &quot;With all the changes that we had to make in practice, <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;we lost a lot of time and we paid the price big time for it. <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I understand what NASCAR&#8217;s doing. They need to keep the inspection line on time, <br /> &gt; &nbsp; ***but I think when you&#8217;ve got 11 or 12 cars, and top teams, that are <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;late to the inspection line, there&#8217;s obviously a problem there beyond just <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;the teams lagging behind.&quot; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what kind of problem he means. &nbsp;Traffic? <br /> Delay at the gates? &nbsp;Parking problems? &nbsp;Something else <br /> that is NASCAR&#8217;s fault rather than the teams&#8217; fault?  </p>
<p>Sounds like another shot across the bow in the war for <br /> good behavior. &nbsp;  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;On Sat, 14 May 2005 13:28:34 CST, &quot;Crusader&quot; &lt;cr...@comcast.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Or should that be Busch-isms? &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Yogi-isms &amp; Stengel-ese. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;From Ndotcom: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&quot;Any time you go in the NASCAR hauler, you don&#039;t want to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; go in there,&quot; Busch said. &quot;It&#039;s a scenario where you &lt;br /&gt; &gt;listen quite often and speak in very short words.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I imagine he means things like &quot;Yes, sir.&quot; &#160;&quot;No, sir.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;You&#039;re right, sir.&quot; &#160;&quot;Never again, sir.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&quot;You get your point across quickly because the mother &lt;br /&gt; &gt; hand is on top and by no means did we escape anything.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;LOL! &#160;This is right up there with &quot;all your base belong &lt;br /&gt; to me.&quot; &#160;&quot;Mother NASCAR is watching!&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&quot;This place is really cool to qualify if you&#039;re right &lt;br /&gt; &gt; and we were just right on the pins and needles of just &lt;br /&gt; &gt;hitting a turn here or a turn there and slipping a tire, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;but we stuck it pretty good.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;... &#160;pins and needles? &#160;HUH? Cue the Aflac Duck, eh? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;AFLAAAAAC! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Sat, 14 May 2005 13:28:34 CST, &quot;Crusader&quot; &lt;cr&#8230;@comcast.net&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;Or should that be Busch-isms? <br /> &gt;Yogi-isms &amp; Stengel-ese. <br /> &gt;&gt;From Ndotcom: <br /> &gt;&quot;Any time you go in the NASCAR hauler, you don&#8217;t want to <br /> &gt; go in there,&quot; Busch said. &quot;It&#8217;s a scenario where you <br /> &gt;listen quite often and speak in very short words.&quot; </p>
<p>I imagine he means things like &quot;Yes, sir.&quot; &nbsp;&quot;No, sir.&quot; <br /> &quot;You&#8217;re right, sir.&quot; &nbsp;&quot;Never again, sir.&quot;  </p>
<p>&gt;&quot;You get your point across quickly because the mother <br /> &gt; hand is on top and by no means did we escape anything.&quot; </p>
<p>LOL! &nbsp;This is right up there with &quot;all your base belong <br /> to me.&quot; &nbsp;&quot;Mother NASCAR is watching!&quot;  </p>
<p>&gt;&quot;This place is really cool to qualify if you&#8217;re right <br /> &gt; and we were just right on the pins and needles of just <br /> &gt;hitting a turn here or a turn there and slipping a tire, <br /> &gt;but we stuck it pretty good.&quot; <br /> &gt;&#8230; &nbsp;pins and needles? &nbsp;HUH? Cue the Aflac Duck, eh? </p>
<p>AFLAAAAAC!  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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