Jr. deserves all the penilty that NASCAR can dish out. If his Dad was still
around Jr would still be dizzy from the slap he would have given him. Not
for spinning out but for opening his big mouth about it. I seem to remember
several years ago at Bristol Sr took care of Terry LaBonte and just smiled
and said I really didn’t mean to spin him.
Learn something Jr.
And I am a DEI fan this kid just needs to learn a thing or two.
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:37:42 CST, "Mike Kirouac"
<mkiro…@sbcoxmail.com> wrote:
>Jr. deserves all the penilty that NASCAR can dish out. If his Dad was still
>around Jr would still be dizzy from the slap he would have given him. Not
>for spinning out but for opening his big mouth about it. I seem to remember
>several years ago at Bristol Sr took care of Terry LaBonte and just smiled
>and said I really didn’t mean to spin him.
>Learn something Jr.
>And I am a DEI fan this kid just needs to learn a thing or two.
As long as the 25 points don’t keep Jr. out of the Chase, they
won’t matter much in the season.
Let’s imagine, for the sake of argument, that Jr. places 10th
in the Chase, about 400 points behind the leader (Ryan
Newman).
When the points get compressed, it would look something
like this, I think:
1. 5050: RN
2. 5045
3. 5040
4. 5035
5. 5030
6. 5025
7. 5020
8. 5015
9. 5010
10 5005: Jr.
RN’s points lead over Jr. has now shrunk from 400 points
to 45. The impact of the 25-point penalty has shrunk along
with the distance between 10th and 1st.
Of course, if the 25 points keep Jr. out of the top echelon,
then it becomes a monstrously large penalty, because after
the Chase begins, the top group is separated from the rest
of the field by … I dunno … 1500 points?
It will be interesting to see how it all turns out.
I agree with your original point: Jr. shoulda kept his mouth
shut.
Marty
Exactly what I was thinking. However we don’t know if Jr was figuring this
out also while dealing with the problem. I’d have to say it was a smart move
to spin it out.
I thought it was very amusing what the commentators mentioned when Dale Sr.
was in the same situation.
Crew Chief to Sr.: We need a caution
Dale Sr. : Working on it.
I’ve got it bad.
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> Don’t forget Jr was in danger of going a lap down. Likely he would
> have taken more than a 25 point hit if that had happen. Seems to me
> giving him the points for the first car a lap down would have been
> appropriate. He got 135 before the penalty. Ricky Craven was the
> first car a lap down and got 97.
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:01:30 CST, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
> <mole…@canisius.edu> wrote:
> >On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:37:42 CST, "Mike Kirouac"
> ><mkiro…@sbcoxmail.com> wrote:
> >>Jr. deserves all the penilty that NASCAR can dish out. If his Dad was
still
> >>around Jr would still be dizzy from the slap he would have given him.
Not
> >>for spinning out but for opening his big mouth about it. I seem to
remember
> >>several years ago at Bristol Sr took care of Terry LaBonte and just
smiled
> >>and said I really didn’t mean to spin him.
> >>Learn something Jr.
> >>And I am a DEI fan this kid just needs to learn a thing or two.
> >As long as the 25 points don’t keep Jr. out of the Chase, they
> >won’t matter much in the season.
> >Let’s imagine, for the sake of argument, that Jr. places 10th
> >in the Chase, about 400 points behind the leader (Ryan
> >Newman).
> >When the points get compressed, it would look something
> >like this, I think:
> > 1. 5050: RN
> > 2. 5045
> > 3. 5040
> > 4. 5035
> > 5. 5030
> > 6. 5025
> > 7. 5020
> > 8. 5015
> > 9. 5010
> >10 5005: Jr.
> >RN’s points lead over Jr. has now shrunk from 400 points
> >to 45. The impact of the 25-point penalty has shrunk along
> >with the distance between 10th and 1st.
> >Of course, if the 25 points keep Jr. out of the top echelon,
> >then it becomes a monstrously large penalty, because after
> >the Chase begins, the top group is separated from the rest
> >of the field by … I dunno … 1500 points?
> >It will be interesting to see how it all turns out.
> >I agree with your original point: Jr. shoulda kept his mouth
> >shut.
> > Marty
> —
> Tis better to have loved a short than
> to never have loved a tall.
I thought that SR. just tried to "Rattle" Terry Labonte in that one
You know, the one thing I’ve noticed is how so many people seem to think that
Jr was let off easy. And while I agree, I look at the incident in this
perspective. McMurray intentionally spun another person out, at the crowded
end of a race. It seemed from my view that more drivers were at risk of injury
from his stunt than Jr.’s. All he got was a money fine and probation. Jr.
intentionally spun himself out, with relatively few drivers around (albeit they
were driving much faster at the time). The greatest risk of injury was to Jr.
himself (whereas Kenseth was at greatest risk b/c of McMurray IMHO). But Jr.
got the money, probation, and points penalty.
At first I felt Jr. got screwed, and in many ways I still do. But, I realized
that there is one other huge difference between the Jr. spin and the McMurray
spin. McMurray later apologized for his sin, and it wasn’t viewed as a blatant
defiance towards Daddy Nascar. Jr., on the other hand, surely didn’t apologize
and, in fact, acted rather like the rebellious teenager. So even though I’m a
die hard Jr. fan, I have to say my boy got his deserved lumps. It’s one thing
to break the rules, but it’s another to piss the parents off by boasting about
it.
In article <cbkbc.112542$cx5.9884@fed1read04>, "Mike Kirouac"
<mkiro…@sbcoxmail.com> writes:
>Jr. deserves all the penilty that NASCAR can dish out. If his Dad was still
>around Jr would still be dizzy from the slap he would have given him. Not
>for spinning out but for opening his big mouth about it.
I am a Jr fan and this is well said!
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