>Shirley u know Alex that the majority within even this discussion group
>are not decrying the staged shocker of that white boy fomenting
>the wardrobe malfunction. Just having a good time with it, but unfortunately
>NA$CAR Inc. must watch what they sanction.

Nascar has to watch out, because of the fallout over what happened
there. Heavy FCC fines do not make for happy shareholders, on that I
think we’re all agreed. My view is that the FCC went too far, and that
is having an effect on other sports, hence Nascar’s rule. The FCC forced
Nascar to respond in that way.

>U probably are too young to remember this, but didja ever see
>The Grand Knockout? Brits dressed in oversized playing cards, etc.
>One of the funniest programs i ever did see. Funnier than Benny Hill even!

Oh, I saw "It’s A Knockout" which is what you’re writing about; they’ve
started to run it again. It’s naff though.

>Language barrier? What does naff mean as in: ‘F1 is naff. That’s why i watch NA$CAR.’
>CRU-Hungarian-German-Irish

Naff means seedy or tacky. Think one step above trailer parks.

naff    Adj. 1. Rubbishy, useless, of poor quality. [1960s]
             2. Unfashionable. [1960s]

Cheers,
—
Alex Holden
I don’t speak for anybody but myself.

> Do you think Jr. had no say in the team/hardware switch?

> Marty

I thought Jr. is the one who planned the changes?!?  I read that somewhere.

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> On 10 Apr 2005 21:40:06 GMT, in article
> <115j6u5mfka4…@corp.supernews.com>, "Tommy Wood" <tgw…@nospam.com>
> wrote in rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated:
> To be perfectly honest, and I don’t want to sound like a blunt
> Englishman here, but with all due respect, I cannot, for the life of me
> understand why there has been so much of a puritan response to this
> wardrobe malfunction. I watched that Superbowl (in the early hours of
> the morning, that’s the problem with being 5 hours ahead of Eastern
> time) live, but I just thought that the issue was just a bit of an
> "oops" and I never expected to see a fine of the level that was set.

> Maybe it’s a culture thing, I don’t know, but I don’t think that there
> would have been such an outcry if a similar thing happened at our FA Cup
> Final (the world’s oldest domestic soccer knockout tournament,) which is
> as close to a Superbowl as you’re going to get over here.
> Cheers,
> —
> Alex Holden
> I don’t speak for anybody but myself.

Good one about u blunt Englishmen shipping we Colonists yore Puritans.

Shirley u know Alex that the majority within even this discussion group
are not decrying the staged shocker of that white boy fomenting
the wardrobe malfunction. Just having a good time with it, but unfortunately
NA$CAR Inc. must watch what they sanction.

U probably are too young to remember this, but didja ever see
The Grand Knockout? Brits dressed in oversized playing cards, etc.
One of the funniest programs i ever did see. Funnier than Benny Hill even!

Language barrier? What does naff mean as in: ‘F1 is naff. That’s why i watch NA$CAR.’
CRU-Hungarian-German-Irish

> … That’s
>got to rankle with a driver, seeing through the paint scheme and seeing
>"your" car being driven by somebody else. And that has to hurt more when
>you’re racing at somewhere where you’ve won with that car, and you’re
>struggling to get to grips with a new chassis and a new team…

Interesting.

Do you think Jr. had no say in the team/hardware switch?

                                        Marty

> Alex Holden wrote:

>> … That’s
>>got to rankle with a driver, seeing through the paint scheme and seeing
>>"your" car being driven by somebody else. And that has to hurt more when
>>you’re racing at somewhere where you’ve won with that car, and you’re
>>struggling to get to grips with a new chassis and a new team…

> Interesting.

> Do you think Jr. had no say in the team/hardware switch?

I wonder too.  But you have to think it’s a big deal switch and adjustment.  Of
all the possible switches, this seems the most drastic and disruptive.  OTOH, if
things ain’t right, and disruptive is what you’re lookin’ for … that’s the
shotgun to pull off the wall.

>You guys got rid of your puritan problem by shipping them
>all over here.  :-P

lol!

>> … Would he still be driving the real #8 car chassis
>>instead of the #15 cars painted up as the #8?

>Haven’t heard about that.  What’s the scoop?

It’s something that I think is pretty important, certainly from a
psychlogical perspective.

When Dale Jr and Mikey swapped crew chiefs, that wasn’t the only thing
that they swapped. They swapped everything, and that included the crews
and cars.

So essentially, the car that Mikey will be driving round Pheonix in 2
weeks time is the car that Dale Jr drove to victory there in 03 and 04.

I think that it’s that sort of thing that can affect a driver, and that
may explain partly Jr’s slow start to the season.

At Daytona, the car that Mikey drove was the one that Jr drove to
victory at the race that didn’t mean s**t. Jr had an old 15 car. That’s
got to rankle with a driver, seeing through the paint scheme and seeing
"your" car being driven by somebody else. And that has to hurt more when
you’re racing at somewhere where you’ve won with that car, and you’re
struggling to get to grips with a new chassis and a new team…

Cheers,
—
Alex Holden
I don’t speak for anybody but myself.

>To be perfectly honest, and I don’t want to sound like a blunt
>Englishman here, but with all due respect, I cannot, for the life of me
>understand why there has been so much of a puritan response to this
>wardrobe malfunction.

You guys got rid of your puritan problem by shipping them
all over here.  :-P

> … Would he still be driving the real #8 car chassis
>instead of the #15 cars painted up as the #8?

Haven’t heard about that.  What’s the scoop?

> … Did Janet Jackson cost Jr
>a championship?

No.  I doubt that the fine affected Jr.’s on-track
behavior.

                                Marty

Martin X. Moleski, SJ wrote:

> Haven’t heard about that.  What’s the scoop?

Alex is referring to the switch that happened over winter.  DEjr and MW
switched teams, cars, etc.  The only thing that stayed the same is DEjr
is #8 in the red car and MW is #15 in the blue car.

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> Martin X. Moleski, SJ wrote:

> > On Fri,  8 Apr 2005 22:37:07 CST, "Tommy Wood" <tgw…@nospam.com>
wrote:

> >>I have a scanner.  I listen to the AM radio in the background and the
driver
> >>chatter breaks in when the driver talks.

> > Hmm.  You’re already tech-savvy.  Here I thought we were helping
> > you.  :o(

> >>So, I need another $200 scanner because of Janet Jackson?!?

> > It seems so.  But you’ll have the baddest scanner setup of
> > anyone at the track!

> >>I hate her.

> > We who enjoy the sunlight above the clouds that gather in
> > nearby Gimme Valley do not reveal the measure of the
> > contempt we feel for Ms. Jackson, her dance partner,
> > and the wardrobe mistress.  We pass over these things
> > in silence.

> > Marty

> Oh no, Janet Jackson DOES NOT dwell in Gimme Valley.  We think she is a
> citizen of Contemptible Canyon.
>  All this hubbub, and we didn’t even get to see her nipple.

>I believe that it’s at the broadcasting end.  The local radio "live mike" at
>the track is still live, I believe.

>I guess my only reason for posting this is that never in my wildest
>imaginings did I think that Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction would
>affect my racing routine.

To be perfectly honest, and I don’t want to sound like a blunt
Englishman here, but with all due respect, I cannot, for the life of me
understand why there has been so much of a puritan response to this
wardrobe malfunction. I watched that Superbowl (in the early hours of
the morning, that’s the problem with being 5 hours ahead of Eastern
time) live, but I just thought that the issue was just a bit of an
"oops" and I never expected to see a fine of the level that was set.

Maybe it’s a culture thing, I don’t know, but I don’t think that there
would have been such an outcry if a similar thing happened at our FA Cup
Final (the world’s oldest domestic soccer knockout tournament,) which is
as close to a Superbowl as you’re going to get over here.

>Sometimes, it’s just odd how the unintended consequences affect our lives,
>though it’s not the most critical or consequential thing going on in the
>world.

Too true, too true. What would have happened if Jr hadn’t been docked 25
points at Talladega last fall? Would he have driven differently? Would
KB still be the champ? Would he still be driving the real #8 car chassis
instead of the #15 cars painted up as the #8? Did Janet Jackson cost Jr
a championship?

Cheers,
—
Alex Holden
I don’t speak for anybody but myself.