One of the things a portion of the motorsports community has criticized
NASCAR for over the years is the "archaic" engine rules. I love it just
like it is, but, to my limited knowledge, there hasn’t been a carbureted
production car in about 15 years. Does anyone see fuel injection in the
future?
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I saw a segment on NASCAR Garage about F.I. They said the cost would be alot
to each team and since they are experts with a carb, no increase in
horsepower could be made with fuel injection.
I heard that the teams were saying that fuel injection wouldn’t make much of
a difference with engine performance. Carbs are easier to work on and
replace and more cost effective. I don’t see why they would want to change
it. Maybe someone will in the years ahead, but I don’t think it will catch
on.
Bill wrote:
> One of the things a portion of the motorsports community has criticized
> NASCAR for over the years is the "archaic" engine rules. I love it just
> like it is, but, to my limited knowledge, there hasn’t been a carbureted
> production car in about 15 years. Does anyone see fuel injection in the
> future?
OK, let me reset the premise of this question. In a race application,
there is no power advantage from a carb to injection, in a gasoline
engine. Certainly not in a stock car application. I’m just asking about
what’s in the France boy heads.
Bill <maxx…@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> OK, let me reset the premise of this question. In a race application,
>there is no power advantage from a carb to injection, in a gasoline
>engine. Certainly not in a stock car application. I’m just asking about
>what’s in the France boy heads.
I’d say it’s unlikely, unless the manufacturers suddenly all decided they
wanted to showcase FI for marketing reasons (if GM & Ford showed
up in the NASCAR offices and said they needed to be running FI, then
you can be sure NASCAR would do something). I don’t see this as
likely, the manufacturers seem to be getting plenty of advantage from
the current situation (which has little obvious connection to production
car tech, altho there’s lots of hidden things) so there’s no reason for them
to press for a change.
Incidently, the question of cost is a little more complex than it seems.
There’s definately a high up front cost to go from the familiar carb to
FI, but on the long term it’s a lot easier to adjust FI than it is to rejet a
carb everytime you change cams (or the weather changes), which
would cut your running costs…
John
I think this may depend upon the success of the ASA series next year. But
even if things work out in ASA, I wouldn’t expect to see even a glimmer of
change in Nascar for atleast 3-5 years afterward.
Mike
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Bill wrote:
> One of the things a portion of the motorsports community has criticized
> NASCAR for over the years is the "archaic" engine rules. I love it just
> like it is, but, to my limited knowledge, there hasn’t been a carbureted
> production car in about 15 years. Does anyone see fuel injection in the
> future?
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:55:33 GMT, igop…@ix.netcom.com (John McCoy)
wrote:
>Incidently, the question of cost is a little more complex than it seems.
>There’s definately a high up front cost to go from the familiar carb to
>FI, but on the long term it’s a lot easier to adjust FI than it is to rejet a
>carb everytime you change cams (or the weather changes), which
>would cut your running costs…
At least for a while, I’d expect to see teams swapping injectors
almost as much as they swap shocks. I’m hardly an expert here, so
perhaps someone can enlighten me, but I’d guess that
optimum-to-the-last-single-horsepower-possible injector spray patterns
might be partially dependent upon temperature and humidity. And/or
perhaps there’s tradeoffs in orfice size vs duration.
Matt Thul
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Matt Thul <dont.spam.t…@newsguy.com> wrote:
>At least for a while, I’d expect to see teams swapping injectors
>almost as much as they swap shocks. I’m hardly an expert here, so
>perhaps someone can enlighten me, but I’d guess that
>optimum-to-the-last-single-horsepower-possible injector spray patterns
>might be partially dependent upon temperature and humidity. And/or
>perhaps there’s tradeoffs in orfice size vs duration.
Probably not. The characteristic of primary importance is getting good
atomization, in other words as fine a spray as possible. The duration
isn’t particularly important, so you’re free to vary that as needed to
get the fuel mix (lean/rich) where it needs to be. Duration would be
varied by changing the programming of the electronics, of course,
not the injectors (I’m assuming they won’t be using the old Hilborn
system…).
That applies to gasoline, at least. Alcohol motors may well be a different
story, since they have to flow so much more fuel, and atomization isn’t
as important. Fortunately WC isn’t likely to go that way, regardless of
what the presidential candidates are promising in Iowa.
John