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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;John McCoy wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; &lt;mole...@canisius.edu&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:52jd811724238asnemu4tsuevdljpgg1qv@4ax.com: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; On 15 May 2005 01:30:20 GMT, &quot;Somebody&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;someb...@nospam.russdoucet.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Tell me I&#039;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; leader, almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight &lt;br /&gt; race &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; I went downstairs and caught the second half of the race, along &lt;br /&gt; with &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; replays. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; JJ was spun by the 77. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; Now we have to ask how much it would take to motivate the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; 77 to spin the uncrowned Champion. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; Nah. &#160;It still don&#039;t make sense to me. &#160;;o) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; The 77 spinning him wouldn&#039;t have put him out, it was the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; hard left turn into the inside wall half a lap later that &lt;br /&gt; &gt; caused the permanent damage. &#160;I very much doubt NASCAR could &lt;br /&gt; &gt; convince any driver to intentionally run their car into the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; wall...those deals tend to hurt. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; John &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;It was an involuntary turn - his steering broke. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;N. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>John McCoy wrote: <br /> &gt; &quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; &lt;mole&#8230;@canisius.edu&gt; wrote in <br /> &gt; news:52jd811724238asnemu4tsuevdljpgg1qv@4ax.com: <br /> 
<p>&gt; &gt; On 15 May 2005 01:30:20 GMT, &quot;Somebody&quot; <br /> &gt; &gt; &lt;someb&#8230;@nospam.russdoucet.com&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt;&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT&#8230;@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; &gt;&gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com&#8230; <br /> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Tell me I&#8217;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points <br /> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; leader, almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight <br /> race <br /> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt;&gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up?  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; I went downstairs and caught the second half of the race, along <br /> with <br /> &gt; &gt; replays.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; JJ was spun by the 77.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; Now we have to ask how much it would take to motivate the <br /> &gt; &gt; 77 to spin the uncrowned Champion.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; Nah. &nbsp;It still don&#8217;t make sense to me. &nbsp;;o)  </p>
<p>&gt; The 77 spinning him wouldn&#8217;t have put him out, it was the <br /> &gt; hard left turn into the inside wall half a lap later that <br /> &gt; caused the permanent damage. &nbsp;I very much doubt NASCAR could <br /> &gt; convince any driver to intentionally run their car into the <br /> &gt; wall&#8230;those deals tend to hurt.  </p>
<p>&gt; John </p>
<p>It was an involuntary turn &#8211; his steering broke.  </p>
<p>N. </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  On 15 May 2005 01:30:20 GMT, &quot;Somebody&quot; &lt;someb...@nospam.russdoucet.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Tell me I&#039;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points leader, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I went downstairs and caught the second half of the race, along with &lt;br /&gt; replays. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;JJ was spun by the 77. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now we have to ask how much it would take to motivate the &lt;br /&gt; 77 to spin the uncrowned Champion. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nah. &#160;It still don&#039;t make sense to me. &#160;;o) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 15 May 2005 01:30:20 GMT, &quot;Somebody&quot; &lt;someb&#8230;@nospam.russdoucet.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT&#8230;@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt; Tell me I&#8217;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points leader, <br /> &gt;&gt; almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and <br /> &gt;&gt; ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. <br /> &gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break. <br /> &gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up? </p>
<p>I went downstairs and caught the second half of the race, along with <br /> replays.  </p>
<p>JJ was spun by the 77.  </p>
<p>Now we have to ask how much it would take to motivate the <br /> 77 to spin the uncrowned Champion.  </p>
<p>Nah. &nbsp;It still don&#8217;t make sense to me. &nbsp;;o)  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  &quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; &lt;mole...@canisius.edu&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; news:52jd811724238asnemu4tsuevdljpgg1qv@4ax.com: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; On 15 May 2005 01:30:20 GMT, &quot;Somebody&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &lt;someb...@nospam.russdoucet.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Tell me I&#039;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; leader, almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I went downstairs and caught the second half of the race, along with &lt;br /&gt; &gt; replays. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; JJ was spun by the 77. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Now we have to ask how much it would take to motivate the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 77 to spin the uncrowned Champion. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Nah. &#160;It still don&#039;t make sense to me. &#160;;o) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The 77 spinning him wouldn&#039;t have put him out, it was the &lt;br /&gt; hard left turn into the inside wall half a lap later that &lt;br /&gt; caused the permanent damage. &#160;I very much doubt NASCAR could &lt;br /&gt; convince any driver to intentionally run their car into the &lt;br /&gt; wall...those deals tend to hurt. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; &lt;mole&#8230;@canisius.edu&gt; wrote in <br /> news:52jd811724238asnemu4tsuevdljpgg1qv@4ax.com: <br /> 
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<p>&gt; On 15 May 2005 01:30:20 GMT, &quot;Somebody&quot; <br /> &gt; &lt;someb&#8230;@nospam.russdoucet.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT&#8230;@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt;&gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; Tell me I&#8217;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; leader, almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; and ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up?  </p>
<p>&gt; I went downstairs and caught the second half of the race, along with <br /> &gt; replays.  </p>
<p>&gt; JJ was spun by the 77.  </p>
<p>&gt; Now we have to ask how much it would take to motivate the <br /> &gt; 77 to spin the uncrowned Champion.  </p>
<p>&gt; Nah. &nbsp;It still don&#8217;t make sense to me. &nbsp;;o) </p>
<p>The 77 spinning him wouldn&#8217;t have put him out, it was the <br /> hard left turn into the inside wall half a lap later that <br /> caused the permanent damage. &nbsp;I very much doubt NASCAR could <br /> convince any driver to intentionally run their car into the <br /> wall&#8230;those deals tend to hurt.  </p>
<p>John </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Tell me I&#039;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points leader, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and &lt;br /&gt; &gt; ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The new final 10 race,&quot;Chase&quot; makes that kind of &quot;fix&quot; totally unnecessary. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Tell me I&#8217;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points leader, <br /> &gt; almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and <br /> &gt; ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. </p>
<p>The new final 10 race,&quot;Chase&quot; makes that kind of &quot;fix&quot; totally unnecessary. </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  On 15 May 2005 00:20:01 GMT, Avalanche &lt;bradleesnowScratchT...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;Tell me I&#039;m just a cynic, not an #%%. But Johnson, big points leader, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I guess just a bad break. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s how I see it. &#160;NASCAR doesn&#039;t have to manufacture breakdowns &lt;br /&gt; for drivers--nor can I imagine a driver volunteering to have a &lt;br /&gt; breakdown for the sake of the Corporation. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They know what&#039;s good for NASCAR is good for them, &lt;br /&gt; but what&#039;s good for them is good for them, too, if you &lt;br /&gt; see what I mean. &#160;;o) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 15 May 2005 00:20:01 GMT, Avalanche &lt;bradleesnowScratchT&#8230;@yahoo.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;Tell me I&#8217;m just a cynic, not an #%%. But Johnson, big points leader, <br /> &gt;almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and <br /> &gt;ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. <br /> &gt;I guess just a bad break. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I see it. &nbsp;NASCAR doesn&#8217;t have to manufacture breakdowns <br /> for drivers&#8211;nor can I imagine a driver volunteering to have a <br /> breakdown for the sake of the Corporation.  </p>
<p>They know what&#8217;s good for NASCAR is good for them, <br /> but what&#8217;s good for them is good for them, too, if you <br /> see what I mean. &nbsp;;o)  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Avalanche&quot; &lt;bradleesnowScratchT...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:st4d81the9tuo3enfkuuo8bjsjp5h2nfar@4ax.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Tell me I&#039;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points leader, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and &lt;br /&gt; &gt; ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I guess just a bad break. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Russ. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Tell me I&#8217;m just a cynic, not an ass. But Johnson, big points leader, <br /> &gt; almost always top 10, NASCAR blooming and wants tight race and <br /> &gt; ratings, and he wrecks. Finish 40 or so and race tightens.  </p>
<p>&gt; I guess just a bad break. </p>
<p>Were you actually watching the race, or did you just make that up?  </p>
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