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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Sue &amp; Jerry wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; what a friend &lt;br /&gt; &gt; RE: &quot;Jeff stated that because Ray was under contract with &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Dodge, he couldn&#039;t wear a Chevy shirt and that was unacceptable &lt;br /&gt; &gt; as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;This makes sense to me. &#160;Keeping sponsors happy is a major part &lt;br /&gt; of the off-track competition. &#160;I doubt that the split was &lt;br /&gt; a big surprise or a big hurt for RE. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jus&#039; one &#039;a dem racin&#039; deals. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If they have, in fact, split up in a friendly fashion, I&#039;m sure &lt;br /&gt; the friendship will survive. &#160;DE seems to get along OK with &lt;br /&gt; RW and MM, despite the Ford/Chevy divide. &#160;If there is some &lt;br /&gt; rift between RE and JG, I doubt that the Busch split will affect &lt;br /&gt; it much either way. &#160;My offhand, amateurish, totally unsubstantiated &lt;br /&gt; guess is that the friction was between Hendricks and Evernham, &lt;br /&gt; not Evernham and Gordon. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I imagine more details will leak out eventually. &#160;You can&#039;t break &lt;br /&gt; up one of the most successful teams in NASCAR history (rated as &lt;br /&gt; a combination of victories and championships per year of existence) &lt;br /&gt; and not have people wondering what happened. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m delighted about the split for one reason only: it may help settle &lt;br /&gt; the question of why Jeff won. &#160;The success or failure of RE&#039;s team(s) &lt;br /&gt; and JG&#039;s team may shed some light on their past successes together. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue &amp; Jerry wrote: <br /> &gt; what a friend <br /> &gt; RE: &quot;Jeff stated that because Ray was under contract with <br /> &gt; Dodge, he couldn&#8217;t wear a Chevy shirt and that was unacceptable <br /> &gt; as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations.&quot; </p>
<p>This makes sense to me. &nbsp;Keeping sponsors happy is a major part <br /> of the off-track competition. &nbsp;I doubt that the split was <br /> a big surprise or a big hurt for RE. &nbsp;  </p>
<p>Jus&#8217; one &#8216;a dem racin&#8217; deals.  </p>
<p>If they have, in fact, split up in a friendly fashion, I&#8217;m sure <br /> the friendship will survive. &nbsp;DE seems to get along OK with <br /> RW and MM, despite the Ford/Chevy divide. &nbsp;If there is some <br /> rift between RE and JG, I doubt that the Busch split will affect <br /> it much either way. &nbsp;My offhand, amateurish, totally unsubstantiated <br /> guess is that the friction was between Hendricks and Evernham, <br /> not Evernham and Gordon.  </p>
<p>I imagine more details will leak out eventually. &nbsp;You can&#8217;t break <br /> up one of the most successful teams in NASCAR history (rated as <br /> a combination of victories and championships per year of existence) <br /> and not have people wondering what happened.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m delighted about the split for one reason only: it may help settle <br /> the question of why Jeff won. &nbsp;The success or failure of RE&#8217;s team(s) <br /> and JG&#8217;s team may shed some light on their past successes together.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: Ending under Caution &lt;br /&gt; &gt;From: &quot;Martin X. Moleski, SJ&quot; mole...@canisius.edu &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Date: Fri, 17 December 1999 12:24 AM EST &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Message-id: &lt;3859CBB5.EB97C...@canisius.edu&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Sue &amp; Jerry wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I&#039;m delighted about the split for one reason only: it may help settle &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the question of why Jeff won. &#160;The success or failure of RE&#039;s team(s) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;and JG&#039;s team may shed some light on their past successes together. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yep, and Jeff&#039;s such a true blue team player....Dedicated to the owners and &lt;br /&gt; all. &#160;kinda like when Jeff wins a race sponsored by Coke and he just HAS to &lt;br /&gt; wave that Pepsi bottle in the face of every camera man in victory lane. &#160;Wonder &lt;br /&gt; if he&#039;d have a delema if he found out the God likes Coca Cola :) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rich &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rich Bemben &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;br /&gt; Rbemb...@aol.com &lt;br /&gt; Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil but DO fear the evil, good men do &lt;br /&gt; in the name of good. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;Sue &amp; Jerry wrote: <br /> &gt;I&#8217;m delighted about the split for one reason only: it may help settle <br /> &gt;the question of why Jeff won. &nbsp;The success or failure of RE&#8217;s team(s) <br /> &gt;and JG&#8217;s team may shed some light on their past successes together. </p>
<p>Yep, and Jeff&#8217;s such a true blue team player&#8230;.Dedicated to the owners and <br /> all. &nbsp;kinda like when Jeff wins a race sponsored by Coke and he just HAS to <br /> wave that Pepsi bottle in the face of every camera man in victory lane. &nbsp;Wonder <br /> if he&#8217;d have a delema if he found out the God likes Coca Cola <img src='http://www.nascarracingclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Rich  </p>
<p>Rich Bemben &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> <a href="mailto:Rbemb...@aol.com">Rbemb&#8230;@aol.com</a> <br /> Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil but DO fear the evil, good men do <br /> in the name of good. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  what a friend &lt;br /&gt; NASCARWife &lt;nascarw...@aol.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:19991212065653.23605.00000570@ng-ba1.aol.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; &gt;NASCARWife wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt;From: Brian Kinkaid &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;Are you sure about this? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I only know what Jeff said in an interview shortly after it was announced &lt;br /&gt; that &lt;br /&gt; &gt; he wanted Ray out of the BUSCH program. &#160;Jeff stated that because Ray was &lt;br /&gt; under &lt;br /&gt; &gt; contract with Dodge, he couldn&#039;t wear a Chevy shirt and that was &lt;br /&gt; unacceptable &lt;br /&gt; &gt; as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>news:19991212065653.23605.00000570@ng-ba1.aol.com&#8230; <br /> 
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<p>&gt; &gt;NASCARWife wrote: <br /> &gt; &gt;&gt; This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. <br /> 
<p>&gt; &gt;From: Brian Kinkaid <br /> &gt; &gt;Are you sure about this?  </p>
<p>&gt; I only know what Jeff said in an interview shortly after it was announced <br /> that <br /> &gt; he wanted Ray out of the BUSCH program. &nbsp;Jeff stated that because Ray was <br /> under <br /> &gt; contract with Dodge, he couldn&#8217;t wear a Chevy shirt and that was <br /> unacceptable <br /> &gt; as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&gt;NASCARWife wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;From: Brian Kinkaid &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Are you sure about this? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I only know what Jeff said in an interview shortly after it was announced that &lt;br /&gt; he wanted Ray out of the BUSCH program. &#160;Jeff stated that because Ray was under &lt;br /&gt; contract with Dodge, he couldn&#039;t wear a Chevy shirt and that was unacceptable &lt;br /&gt; as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations. &#160; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;NASCARWife wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt; This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. <br /> &gt;From: Brian Kinkaid <br /> &gt;Are you sure about this? </p>
<p>I only know what Jeff said in an interview shortly after it was announced that <br /> he wanted Ray out of the BUSCH program. &nbsp;Jeff stated that because Ray was under <br /> contract with Dodge, he couldn&#8217;t wear a Chevy shirt and that was unacceptable <br /> as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations. &nbsp; </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Will&quot; &lt;ALMO...@prodigy.net&gt; wrote in message news:82u44l$5tms$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; SO why the new crew chief Rappy? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Better suited to the job? &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Bill&quot; &lt;maxx...@bellsouth.net&gt; wrote in message news:3851A737.ECCBDF7E@bellsouth.net... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Good to see you back, man. You&#039;re gonna go to the mat on this, aren&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; &gt; you. Would I have expected anything less? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I never left! &#160;;-) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just get amazed by people&#039;s ASSertion that as Ray&#039;s right hand man all &lt;br /&gt; those years and as chief engineer for the 24 team that Brian&#039;s fingerprints &lt;br /&gt; were not on that cars just as much as Ray&#039;s were. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ray delegated a great many tasks to Brian, not the least of which were &lt;br /&gt; putting the base setups on the car before they left for the track. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; #27 Atwood &#160; &#160;24 Gordon &#160; &#160;25 Wally &#160; &#160;36 Nadeau &#160;66 DW &lt;br /&gt; Rappy&#039;s Nascar Screensavers &#160; &#160;http://users.erols.com/rapp/ &lt;br /&gt; Get paid to surf? &#160;And, get paid to read e-mail &lt;br /&gt; or the newsgroups! &#160; &#160;http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Bill&quot; &lt;maxx&#8230;@bellsouth.net&gt; wrote in message news:3851A737.ECCBDF7E@bellsouth.net&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt; Good to see you back, man. You&#8217;re gonna go to the mat on this, aren&#8217;t <br /> &gt; you. Would I have expected anything less? </p>
<p>I never left! &nbsp;;-)  </p>
<p>I just get amazed by people&#8217;s ASSertion that as Ray&#8217;s right hand man all <br /> those years and as chief engineer for the 24 team that Brian&#8217;s fingerprints <br /> were not on that cars just as much as Ray&#8217;s were.  </p>
<p>Ray delegated a great many tasks to Brian, not the least of which were <br /> putting the base setups on the car before they left for the track.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> #27 Atwood &nbsp; &nbsp;24 Gordon &nbsp; &nbsp;25 Wally &nbsp; &nbsp;36 Nadeau &nbsp;66 DW <br /> Rappy&#8217;s Nascar Screensavers &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://users.erols.com/rapp/" rel="nofollow">http://users.erols.com/rapp/</a> <br /> Get paid to surf? &nbsp;And, get paid to read e-mail <br /> or the newsgroups! &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy" rel="nofollow">http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy</a> </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  SO why the new crew chief Rappy? &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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  R a p p y wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;Sue &amp; Jerry&quot; &lt;JER2SU...@prodigy.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:82r2b5$8dnk$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO&#039;ed. I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; the 2 tracks that Ray hadn&#039;t mapped out for him, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Clue #1 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; It was one of Brain Whitesell&#039;s jobs under Ray Everham to go over notes from &lt;br /&gt; &gt; pervious races and determine what setups should be put on the cars when they &lt;br /&gt; &gt; left the shop. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160;Homestead and Phoenix. He &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; didn&#039;t do too well at &#039;Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; configuration change a couple of years ago.) &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Clue #2 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Didn&#039;t Jeff win last fall and the spring 99 race there? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &#160;Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Clue #3 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; NO.....he&#039;s a great driver and has accomplished more in his first 7 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; years by far than either Petty or Earnhardt did. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; but with out &#160;Ray he &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; is back in the class of the mortals. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Clue #4 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Without Ray he&#039;s 2 for 7 &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; My guess is that with Ray doing the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Let me setup the car for you! &#160; &#160;;-) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; &gt; #27 Atwood &#160; &#160;24 Gordon &#160; &#160;25 Wally &#160; &#160;36 Nadeau &#160;66 DW &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Rappy&#039;s Nascar Screensavers &#160; &#160;http://users.erols.com/rapp/ &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Get paid to surf? &#160;And, get paid to read e-mail &lt;br /&gt; &gt; or the newsgroups! &#160; &#160;http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Good to see you back, man. You&#039;re gonna go to the mat on this, aren&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; you. Would I have expected anything less? &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; &quot;Sue &amp; Jerry&quot; &lt;JER2SU&#8230;@prodigy.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:82r2b5$8dnk$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com&#8230; <br /> &gt; &gt; I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO&#8217;ed. I <br /> &gt; &gt; would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in <br /> &gt; &gt; the 2 tracks that Ray hadn&#8217;t mapped out for him, <br /> &gt; Clue #1 <br /> &gt; It was one of Brain Whitesell&#8217;s jobs under Ray Everham to go over notes from <br /> &gt; pervious races and determine what setups should be put on the cars when they <br /> &gt; left the shop.  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp;Homestead and Phoenix. He <br /> &gt; &gt; didn&#8217;t do too well at &#8216;Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the <br /> &gt; &gt; configuration change a couple of years ago.) <br /> &gt; Clue #2 <br /> &gt; Didn&#8217;t Jeff win last fall and the spring 99 race there?  </p>
<p>&gt; &nbsp;Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer <br /> &gt; &gt; more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver, <br /> &gt; Clue #3 <br /> &gt; NO&#8230;..he&#8217;s a great driver and has accomplished more in his first 7 <br /> &gt; years by far than either Petty or Earnhardt did.  </p>
<p>&gt; but with out &nbsp;Ray he <br /> &gt; &gt; is back in the class of the mortals. <br /> &gt; Clue #4 <br /> &gt; Without Ray he&#8217;s 2 for 7  </p>
<p>&gt; My guess is that with Ray doing the <br /> &gt; &gt; setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not <br /> &gt; &gt; wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!)  </p>
<p>&gt; Let me setup the car for you! &nbsp; &nbsp;;-)  </p>
<p>&gt; &#8212; <br /> &gt; #27 Atwood &nbsp; &nbsp;24 Gordon &nbsp; &nbsp;25 Wally &nbsp; &nbsp;36 Nadeau &nbsp;66 DW <br /> &gt; Rappy&#8217;s Nascar Screensavers &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://users.erols.com/rapp/" rel="nofollow">http://users.erols.com/rapp/</a> <br /> &gt; Get paid to surf? &nbsp;And, get paid to read e-mail <br /> &gt; or the newsgroups! &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy" rel="nofollow">http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy</a> </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Good to see you back, man. You&#8217;re gonna go to the mat on this, aren&#8217;t <br /> you. Would I have expected anything less? </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;NASCARWife wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. &#160;Ray couldn&#039;t wear &lt;br /&gt; &gt; anything with Chevy on it and they are a &quot;sponsor&quot; on the car so Jeff &lt;br /&gt; &gt; felt that Ray needed to be out of the team. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Are you sure about this? I thought I heard Ray say somewhere the Dodge &lt;br /&gt; vs. Chevy wouldn&#039;t have made a difference. I wonder if Jeff just didn&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; want a &quot;clean break&quot; to move on. I also wonder if he didn&#039;t just want &lt;br /&gt; Evernham to stay out of the talent pool, as they were using this team to &lt;br /&gt; cultivate future Hendrick Motorsports team members. &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; Brian Kinkaid &lt;br /&gt; Showtime Racing - http://www.misslink.net/kinkaid/ &lt;br /&gt; OFL - http://ofl.homepage.com / CNSRL - http://www.cnsrl.com &lt;br /&gt; RRL - http://rrlnrs.com / OSCAR - http://www.awtech.com/oscar &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASCARWife wrote: <br /> &gt; This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. &nbsp;Ray couldn&#8217;t wear <br /> &gt; anything with Chevy on it and they are a &quot;sponsor&quot; on the car so Jeff <br /> &gt; felt that Ray needed to be out of the team. </p>
<p>Are you sure about this? I thought I heard Ray say somewhere the Dodge <br /> vs. Chevy wouldn&#8217;t have made a difference. I wonder if Jeff just didn&#8217;t <br /> want a &quot;clean break&quot; to move on. I also wonder if he didn&#8217;t just want <br /> Evernham to stay out of the talent pool, as they were using this team to <br /> cultivate future Hendrick Motorsports team members. <br /> &#8212; <br /> Brian Kinkaid <br /> Showtime Racing &#8211; <a href="http://www.misslink.net/kinkaid/" rel="nofollow">http://www.misslink.net/kinkaid/</a> <br /> OFL &#8211; <a href="http://ofl.homepage.com" rel="nofollow">http://ofl.homepage.com</a> / CNSRL &#8211; <a href="http://www.cnsrl.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnsrl.com</a> <br /> RRL &#8211; <a href="http://rrlnrs.com" rel="nofollow">http://rrlnrs.com</a> / OSCAR &#8211; <a href="http://www.awtech.com/oscar" rel="nofollow">http://www.awtech.com/oscar</a> </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Sue &amp; Jerry&quot; &lt;JER2SU...@prodigy.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; news:82r2b5$8dnk$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO&#039;ed. I &lt;br /&gt; &gt; would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the 2 tracks that Ray hadn&#039;t mapped out for him, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Clue #1 &lt;br /&gt; It was one of Brain Whitesell&#039;s jobs under Ray Everham to go over notes from &lt;br /&gt; pervious races and determine what setups should be put on the cars when they &lt;br /&gt; left the shop. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;Homestead and Phoenix. He &lt;br /&gt; &gt; didn&#039;t do too well at &#039;Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; configuration change a couple of years ago.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Clue #2 &lt;br /&gt; Didn&#039;t Jeff win last fall and the spring 99 race there? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer &lt;br /&gt; &gt; more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Clue #3 &lt;br /&gt; NO.....he&#039;s a great driver and has accomplished more in his first 7 &lt;br /&gt; years by far than either Petty or Earnhardt did. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;but with out &#160;Ray he &lt;br /&gt; &gt; is back in the class of the mortals. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Clue #4 &lt;br /&gt; Without Ray he&#039;s 2 for 7 &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My guess is that with Ray doing the &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not &lt;br /&gt; &gt; wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Let me setup the car for you! &#160; &#160;;-) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; #27 Atwood &#160; &#160;24 Gordon &#160; &#160;25 Wally &#160; &#160;36 Nadeau &#160;66 DW &lt;br /&gt; Rappy&#039;s Nascar Screensavers &#160; &#160;http://users.erols.com/rapp/ &lt;br /&gt; Get paid to surf? &#160;And, get paid to read e-mail &lt;br /&gt; or the newsgroups! &#160; &#160;http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Sue &amp; Jerry&quot; &lt;JER2SU&#8230;@prodigy.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> news:82r2b5$8dnk$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com&#8230; <br /> &gt; I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO&#8217;ed. I <br /> &gt; would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in <br /> &gt; the 2 tracks that Ray hadn&#8217;t mapped out for him, </p>
<p>Clue #1 <br /> It was one of Brain Whitesell&#8217;s jobs under Ray Everham to go over notes from <br /> pervious races and determine what setups should be put on the cars when they <br /> left the shop.  </p>
<p>&nbsp;Homestead and Phoenix. He <br /> &gt; didn&#8217;t do too well at &#8216;Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the <br /> &gt; configuration change a couple of years ago.) </p>
<p>Clue #2 <br /> Didn&#8217;t Jeff win last fall and the spring 99 race there?  </p>
<p>&nbsp;Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer <br /> &gt; more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver, </p>
<p>Clue #3 <br /> NO&#8230;..he&#8217;s a great driver and has accomplished more in his first 7 <br /> years by far than either Petty or Earnhardt did.  </p>
<p>but with out &nbsp;Ray he <br /> &gt; is back in the class of the mortals. </p>
<p>Clue #4 <br /> Without Ray he&#8217;s 2 for 7  </p>
<p>My guess is that with Ray doing the  </p>
<p>&gt; setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not <br /> &gt; wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!) </p>
<p>Let me setup the car for you! &nbsp; &nbsp;;-)  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> #27 Atwood &nbsp; &nbsp;24 Gordon &nbsp; &nbsp;25 Wally &nbsp; &nbsp;36 Nadeau &nbsp;66 DW <br /> Rappy&#8217;s Nascar Screensavers &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://users.erols.com/rapp/" rel="nofollow">http://users.erols.com/rapp/</a> <br /> Get paid to surf? &nbsp;And, get paid to read e-mail <br /> or the newsgroups! &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy" rel="nofollow">http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=rappy</a> </p>
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