The 3 would just hit everyone in front of him until he is in the front. I
like a race to the end but some exciting races have ended under caution.
Jeff Burton to name one.
Also I saw on Jayski the 24 team got the 43 crew chief. Alotta shaking the
tree going on over there. Also read Everham and wonderboy split up the Busch
team.
GO FORD
. Also read Everham and wonderboy split up the Busch team.
This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. Ray couldn’t wear anything with
Chevy on it and they are a "sponsor" on the car so Jeff felt that Ray needed to
be out of the team.
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
I am surprised at the lack of conversation on the recent addition of Robby Loomis
to
the Hendrick Organization. I almost fell off my chair reading about it. And now
there is
word Andy Graves is leaving? I was glad to hear Gary Dehart was coming back, but
it’s gotten bizarre when the organization looked so stable for so long.
I am not a fan of any of the teams in this corral but from a spectator’s obstructed
view
I have to wonder. Change is to be expected in this sport, and this year had a
blizzard of it. Just watching the France owned business spread and gorge keeps me
fascinated, if not horrified at moments.
true
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Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
Thanks for the info.
NASCARWife <nascarw…@aol.com> wrote in message
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> . Also read Everham and wonderboy split up the Busch team.
> This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. Ray couldn’t wear anything
with
> Chevy on it and they are a "sponsor" on the car so Jeff felt that Ray
needed to
> be out of the team.
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO’ed. I
would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in
the 2 tracks that Ray hadn’t mapped out for him, Homestead and Phoenix. He
didn’t do too well at ‘Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the
configuration change a couple of years ago.) Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer
more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver, but with out Ray he
is back in the class of the mortals. My guess is that with Ray doing the
setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not
wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!)
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true <t…@iocnet.net> wrote in message news:384FAF6B.C752CA10@iocnet.net…
> I am surprised at the lack of conversation on the recent addition of Robby
Loomis
> to
> the Hendrick Organization. I almost fell off my chair reading about it.
And now
> there is
> word Andy Graves is leaving? I was glad to hear Gary Dehart was coming
back, but
> it’s gotten bizarre when the organization looked so stable for so long.
> I am not a fan of any of the teams in this corral but from a spectator’s
obstructed
> view
> I have to wonder. Change is to be expected in this sport, and this year
had a
> blizzard of it. Just watching the France owned business spread and gorge
keeps me
> fascinated, if not horrified at moments.
> true
> Remove NS from address to reply.
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
"Sue & Jerry" <JER2SU…@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO’ed. I
> would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in
> the 2 tracks that Ray hadn’t mapped out for him,
Clue #1
It was one of Brain Whitesell’s jobs under Ray Everham to go over notes from
pervious races and determine what setups should be put on the cars when they
left the shop.
Homestead and Phoenix. He
> didn’t do too well at ‘Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the
> configuration change a couple of years ago.)
Clue #2
Didn’t Jeff win last fall and the spring 99 race there?
Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer
> more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver,
Clue #3
NO…..he’s a great driver and has accomplished more in his first 7
years by far than either Petty or Earnhardt did.
but with out Ray he
> is back in the class of the mortals.
Clue #4
Without Ray he’s 2 for 7
My guess is that with Ray doing the
> setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not
> wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!)
Let me setup the car for you! ;-)
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Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
NASCARWife wrote:
> This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. Ray couldn’t wear
> anything with Chevy on it and they are a "sponsor" on the car so Jeff
> felt that Ray needed to be out of the team.
Are you sure about this? I think I heard Ray say something to the effect
that the Dodge vs. Chevy thing wasn’t anything they couldn’t get past. I
wonder if it wasn’t just more of a "clean break" kind of thing, or for
that matter to keep Evernham out of the talent pool, they did say they
were using that team to help cultivate future Hendrick team members.
—
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Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
NASCARWife wrote:
> This was necessary due to sponsor obligations. Ray couldn’t wear
> anything with Chevy on it and they are a "sponsor" on the car so Jeff
> felt that Ray needed to be out of the team.
Are you sure about this? I thought I heard Ray say somewhere the Dodge
vs. Chevy wouldn’t have made a difference. I wonder if Jeff just didn’t
want a "clean break" to move on. I also wonder if he didn’t just want
Evernham to stay out of the talent pool, as they were using this team to
cultivate future Hendrick Motorsports team members.
—
Brian Kinkaid
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OFL – http://ofl.homepage.com / CNSRL – http://www.cnsrl.com
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Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
R a p p y wrote:
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> "Sue & Jerry" <JER2SU…@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:82r2b5$8dnk$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com…
> > I too was floored by the Loomis hiring. The King must be beyond PO’ed. I
> > would bet that Jeffy was quite unhappy with the performance of the car in
> > the 2 tracks that Ray hadn’t mapped out for him,
> Clue #1
> It was one of Brain Whitesell’s jobs under Ray Everham to go over notes from
> pervious races and determine what setups should be put on the cars when they
> left the shop.
> Homestead and Phoenix. He
> > didn’t do too well at ‘Lanata, either (a kinda new track in the
> > configuration change a couple of years ago.)
> Clue #2
> Didn’t Jeff win last fall and the spring 99 race there?
> Without Ray, Jeffy will suffer
> > more that anyone can imagine. Jeffy is a good driver,
> Clue #3
> NO…..he’s a great driver and has accomplished more in his first 7
> years by far than either Petty or Earnhardt did.
> but with out Ray he
> > is back in the class of the mortals.
> Clue #4
> Without Ray he’s 2 for 7
> My guess is that with Ray doing the
> > setups on a car, I could drive a WC car and be competitive! (or at least not
> > wet my pants trying to back the car out of the garage area!)
> Let me setup the car for you! ;-)
> —
> #27 Atwood 24 Gordon 25 Wally 36 Nadeau 66 DW
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Good to see you back, man. You’re gonna go to the mat on this, aren’t
you. Would I have expected anything less?
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
"Bill" <maxx…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3851A737.ECCBDF7E@bellsouth.net…
> Good to see you back, man. You’re gonna go to the mat on this, aren’t
> you. Would I have expected anything less?
I never left! ;-)
I just get amazed by people’s ASSertion that as Ray’s right hand man all
those years and as chief engineer for the 24 team that Brian’s fingerprints
were not on that cars just as much as Ray’s were.
Ray delegated a great many tasks to Brian, not the least of which were
putting the base setups on the car before they left for the track.
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Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
SO why the new crew chief Rappy?
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
>NASCARWife wrote:
>> This was necessary due to sponsor obligations.
>From: Brian Kinkaid
>Are you sure about this?
I only know what Jeff said in an interview shortly after it was announced that
he wanted Ray out of the BUSCH program. Jeff stated that because Ray was under
contract with Dodge, he couldn’t wear a Chevy shirt and that was unacceptable
as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations.
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
"Will" <ALMO…@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:82u44l$5tms$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com…
> SO why the new crew chief Rappy?
Better suited to the job?
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
what a friend
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> >NASCARWife wrote:
> >> This was necessary due to sponsor obligations.
> >From: Brian Kinkaid
> >Are you sure about this?
> I only know what Jeff said in an interview shortly after it was announced
that
> he wanted Ray out of the BUSCH program. Jeff stated that because Ray was
under
> contract with Dodge, he couldn’t wear a Chevy shirt and that was
unacceptable
> as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations.
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
Sue & Jerry wrote:
> what a friend
> RE: "Jeff stated that because Ray was under contract with
> Dodge, he couldn’t wear a Chevy shirt and that was unacceptable
> as far as he was concerned because of sponsor obligations."
This makes sense to me. Keeping sponsors happy is a major part
of the off-track competition. I doubt that the split was
a big surprise or a big hurt for RE.
Jus’ one ‘a dem racin’ deals.
If they have, in fact, split up in a friendly fashion, I’m sure
the friendship will survive. DE seems to get along OK with
RW and MM, despite the Ford/Chevy divide. If there is some
rift between RE and JG, I doubt that the Busch split will affect
it much either way. My offhand, amateurish, totally unsubstantiated
guess is that the friction was between Hendricks and Evernham,
not Evernham and Gordon.
I imagine more details will leak out eventually. You can’t break
up one of the most successful teams in NASCAR history (rated as
a combination of victories and championships per year of existence)
and not have people wondering what happened.
I’m delighted about the split for one reason only: it may help settle
the question of why Jeff won. The success or failure of RE’s team(s)
and JG’s team may shed some light on their past successes together.
Marty
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am
>Subject: Re: Ending under Caution
>From: "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" mole…@canisius.edu
>Date: Fri, 17 December 1999 12:24 AM EST
>Message-id: <3859CBB5.EB97C…@canisius.edu>
>Sue & Jerry wrote:
>I’m delighted about the split for one reason only: it may help settle
>the question of why Jeff won. The success or failure of RE’s team(s)
>and JG’s team may shed some light on their past successes together.
Yep, and Jeff’s such a true blue team player….Dedicated to the owners and
all. kinda like when Jeff wins a race sponsored by Coke and he just HAS to
wave that Pepsi bottle in the face of every camera man in victory lane. Wonder
if he’d have a delema if he found out the God likes Coca Cola
Rich
Rich Bemben
Rbemb…@aol.com
Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil but DO fear the evil, good men do
in the name of good.
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 10:33 am