Now that they are hiring it’s third driver for the year. What would you
think if all three drivers were’t able to qualify into the starting
field after 7 consecutive tries. Could it be possibly the cars and not
the drivers? I hope kenny is laughing now.
December 31, 2009
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In rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated Draft <Dr…@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Now that they are hiring it’s third driver for the year. What would you
>think if all three drivers were’t able to qualify into the starting
>field after 7 consecutive tries. Could it be possibly the cars and not
>the drivers? I hope kenny is laughing now.
According to Jayski, it will be hard to miss the field. Again, there are only
44 entries, and when the 36 plus provisional starters don’t fill the field,
they take more on time to fill the field. It would be a good race to try
getting in even if your entry is late…
This means that only the slowest car(s?) without a provisional will be going
home this week. Then again, there are only 3 cars that Jayski shows without
provisionals, the #4, 7, and 14. I’d guess that the #4 would be fastest of the
three, but only one lap of Pocono allows for just about anything to happen.
Sort of a toss-up which of the teams goes home, but Eel River will have a
provisional to use, unless some of those teams make it on speed and Rick Mast
doesn’t!
Eric
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Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
In article <qus0mtcj4qq64s2dtb3oqichqe7kagn…@4ax.com>, E…@Troldahl.com wrote:
>In rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated Draft <Dr…@bestweb.net> wrote:
>>Now that they are hiring it’s third driver for the year. What would you
>>think if all three drivers were’t able to qualify into the starting
>>field after 7 consecutive tries. Could it be possibly the cars and not
>>the drivers? I hope kenny is laughing now.
>According to Jayski, it will be hard to miss the field. Again, there are only
>44 entries, and when the 36 plus provisional starters don’t fill the field,
>they take more on time to fill the field. It would be a good race to try
>getting in even if your entry is late…
[snip] Rumor is Carl Long will be doing just this.
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Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:43:34 CST, de…@bright.net (Deven Atkinson) wrote:
>In article <qus0mtcj4qq64s2dtb3oqichqe7kagn…@4ax.com>, E…@Troldahl.com wrote:
>>In rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated Draft <Dr…@bestweb.net> wrote:
>>>Now that they are hiring it’s third driver for the year. What would you
>>>think if all three drivers were’t able to qualify into the starting
>>>field after 7 consecutive tries. Could it be possibly the cars and not
>>>the drivers? I hope kenny is laughing now.
>>According to Jayski, it will be hard to miss the field. Again, there are only
>>44 entries, and when the 36 plus provisional starters don’t fill the field,
>>they take more on time to fill the field. It would be a good race to try
>>getting in even if your entry is late…
>[snip] Rumor is Carl Long will be doing just this.
Pity for Carl the 3 guys with no provisionals left all made the show on time.
Altho, given how slow he was, it’s good for the rest of the field he wasn’t in
the show. They really don’t need to have one car running 5mph slower than
everyone else.
I think Carl might have some potential, but he’s never going to get anywhere
trying to make two or three races a year. You can’t improve when your whole
years practice consists of 3 fridays and 3 qualifying laps.
John
Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
>I think Carl might have some potential, but he’s never going to get anywhere
>trying to make two or three races a year. You can’t improve when your whole
>years practice consists of 3 fridays and 3 qualifying laps.
Sorry for my ignorance, but who the heck is Carl Long?
-Sean
Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
I doubt he would have been that much slower in race trim. More than likely
he qualified using the motor he was going to race, which would make him
much slower in qualifying but not for the race. It is a shame that
Haas-Carter did not help him with a good engine. Maybe they have already
payed him back for the time he let DW drive the #85 last year.
In article <3b6209c2.508443…@enews.newsguy.com>, igop…@ix.netcom.com
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(John McCoy) wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:43:34 CST, de…@bright.net (Deven Atkinson) wrote:
>>In article <qus0mtcj4qq64s2dtb3oqichqe7kagn…@4ax.com>, E…@Troldahl.com
> wrote:
>>>In rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated Draft <Dr…@bestweb.net> wrote:
>>>>Now that they are hiring it’s third driver for the year. What would you
>>>>think if all three drivers were’t able to qualify into the starting
>>>>field after 7 consecutive tries. Could it be possibly the cars and not
>>>>the drivers? I hope kenny is laughing now.
>>>According to Jayski, it will be hard to miss the field. Again, there are
> only
>>>44 entries, and when the 36 plus provisional starters don’t fill the field,
>>>they take more on time to fill the field. It would be a good race to try
>>>getting in even if your entry is late…
>>[snip] Rumor is Carl Long will be doing just this.
>Pity for Carl the 3 guys with no provisionals left all made the show on time.
>Altho, given how slow he was, it’s good for the rest of the field he wasn’t in
>the show. They really don’t need to have one car running 5mph slower than
>everyone else.
>I think Carl might have some potential, but he’s never going to get anywhere
>trying to make two or three races a year. You can’t improve when your whole
>years practice consists of 3 fridays and 3 qualifying laps.
>John
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Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
In article <20010727205953.05146.00002…@ng-fi1.aol.com>, absolutelys…@aol.comnoemail (Sean) wrote:
>>I think Carl might have some potential, but he’s never going to get anywhere
>>trying to make two or three races a year. You can’t improve when your whole
>>years practice consists of 3 fridays and 3 qualifying laps.
>Sorry for my ignorance, but who the heck is Carl Long?
He is an independent. He has attempted to make several races in the #85
car for a few seasons now. Most notable acomplishments to date are
that he raced in two races last year and that when he qualified for the
World 600 at Charlotte last year he promptly gave the ride to DW (#66
Haas-Carter Racing) who failed to qualify.
See: http://jayski.thatsracin.com/teams/85.htm
Deven Atkinson de…@bright.net
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Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
In rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated igop…@ix.netcom.com (John McCoy) wrote:
>Pity for Carl the 3 guys with no provisionals left all made the show on time.
>Altho, given how slow he was, it’s good for the rest of the field he wasn’t in
>the show. They really don’t need to have one car running 5mph slower than
>everyone else.
Yep, EEl river made the race… On a provisional, starting 43rd. Driver and
crew did not make the difference this week, it was the provisional gods. If
Andy Houston hadn’t skipped, the McDonald’s car would have been in there
instead. (I read it on Jayski). However, skipping the two races will have
dropped Houston’s team in the owner’s standings to the point where even Eel
River has a chance of passing them (Mast has to finish 34th or better).
It amazes me that a team that has attempted every race this season is sitting
1756 points back, though when you realize that of the 19 attempts they only got
into 12 races, it makes more sense.
Eric O. Troldahl, E…@Troldahl.com
Moderator Emeritus, rec.autos.sport.nascar.moderated — http://rasnm.carracing.com
#20, #29, #18, #15, #5, #1, #84 — And Kat Teasdale!
I cheer for a lot of drivers in a lot of series, especially female drivers.
Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 08:50:37 CST, de…@bright.net (Deven Atkinson) wrote:
>In article <20010727205953.05146.00002…@ng-fi1.aol.com>, absolutelys…@aol.comnoemail (Sean) wrote:
>>>I think Carl might have some potential, but he’s never going to get anywhere
>>>trying to make two or three races a year. You can’t improve when your whole
>>>years practice consists of 3 fridays and 3 qualifying laps.
>>Sorry for my ignorance, but who the heck is Carl Long?
>He is an independent. He has attempted to make several races in the #85
>car for a few seasons now.
It’s a bit of a throwback to the old days – his car owner, Thee Dixon (an African
American, for those who’re looking for diversity in NASCAR) apparently just likes
racing, so he bought a couple of old Roush cars. Carl works for him, and works
on the race cars on the side. Every so often they get a car in running shape, and
Dixon has the spare cash to buy a motor, so they try to make a race (Carl himself
driving the transporter to whereever). I think they mostly do it for the fun of it.
> Most notable acomplishments to date are
>that he raced in two races last year and that when he qualified for the
>World 600 at Charlotte last year he promptly gave the ride to DW (#66
>Haas-Carter Racing) who failed to qualify.
Sold would be more accurate. Apparently they lucked into a good setup and
surprised everyone with a very creditable run. DW was in the midst of his "what
do you mean I can’t take the past champions provisional 27 times" blues, and
was way off the pace in qualifying. So Carter basically bought Carl’s position.
As it happened, DW continued to be way off the pace in the race, about half way
thru he gave up and let Carl finish the race, which he did passably well. All in all,
not one of the shining moments for DW’s career.
It did establish Carl as the ultimate underdog, however.
John
Comment by admin — December 31, 2009 @ 5:14 pm