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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  The gear rule seems to work quite well on the Modified Tour. Soft walls have &lt;br /&gt; worked well there for a decade. At least Brett Bodine knows modifieds &lt;br /&gt; exist....... &lt;br /&gt; &quot;John McCoy&quot; &lt;igop...@ix.netcom.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:Xns94D2C813FDCE1pogonewsguy@129.250.170.93... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; Steve Scott &lt;ssco...@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:bh4d8096ed2sjncfg1nh669jml5p08i95l@4ax.com: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; One of the things they&#039;re looking at to reduce costs is engine RPMs. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; I think they said it cost about $1M to gain 100 RPM from where they&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; at now. &#160;And either Gary or Ray Evernham this week mentioned they&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; approaching 10,000 now. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Yes, I heard that to. &#160;It very much gave me the impression that &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Nelson doesn&#039;t have a clue, which is strange because as a crew &lt;br /&gt; &gt; chief he was accounted one of the slyest. &#160;I suspect there&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; &gt; something unpopular planned, which Nelson was carefully skirting &lt;br /&gt; &gt; around. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; In any event, if you pass some rule limiting RPM, say a gear &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rule, then everyone will just spend $1million to make power &lt;br /&gt; &gt; some other way. &#160;The only reason they&#039;re going after RPM now &lt;br /&gt; &gt; is that it&#039;s the easiest way (which means, if they pass a gear &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rule, that everyone will be spending money for increasingly &lt;br /&gt; &gt; smaller gains, and the cars will be more equal and more boring &lt;br /&gt; &gt; than ever). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; The only way they can prevent the teams from spending money on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; trying to improve the engine is to require a spec engine, which &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Nelson said they weren&#039;t going to do. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; John &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gear rule seems to work quite well on the Modified Tour. Soft walls have <br /> worked well there for a decade. At least Brett Bodine knows modifieds <br /> exist&#8230;&#8230;. <br /> &quot;John McCoy&quot; &lt;igop&#8230;@ix.netcom.com&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:Xns94D2C813FDCE1pogonewsguy@129.250.170.93&#8230; <br /> 
<p>- Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -</p>
<p>&gt; Steve Scott &lt;ssco&#8230;@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote in <br /> &gt; news:bh4d8096ed2sjncfg1nh669jml5p08i95l@4ax.com: <br /> 
<p>&gt; &gt; One of the things they&#8217;re looking at to reduce costs is engine RPMs. <br /> &gt; &gt; I think they said it cost about $1M to gain 100 RPM from where they&#8217;re <br /> &gt; &gt; at now. &nbsp;And either Gary or Ray Evernham this week mentioned they&#8217;re <br /> &gt; &gt; approaching 10,000 now.  </p>
<p>&gt; Yes, I heard that to. &nbsp;It very much gave me the impression that <br /> &gt; Nelson doesn&#8217;t have a clue, which is strange because as a crew <br /> &gt; chief he was accounted one of the slyest. &nbsp;I suspect there&#8217;s <br /> &gt; something unpopular planned, which Nelson was carefully skirting <br /> &gt; around.  </p>
<p>&gt; In any event, if you pass some rule limiting RPM, say a gear <br /> &gt; rule, then everyone will just spend $1million to make power <br /> &gt; some other way. &nbsp;The only reason they&#8217;re going after RPM now <br /> &gt; is that it&#8217;s the easiest way (which means, if they pass a gear <br /> &gt; rule, that everyone will be spending money for increasingly <br /> &gt; smaller gains, and the cars will be more equal and more boring <br /> &gt; than ever).  </p>
<p>&gt; The only way they can prevent the teams from spending money on <br /> &gt; trying to improve the engine is to require a spec engine, which <br /> &gt; Nelson said they weren&#8217;t going to do.  </p>
<p>&gt; John </p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  Steve Scott &lt;ssco...@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; news:bh4d8096ed2sjncfg1nh669jml5p08i95l@4ax.com: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; One of the things they&#039;re looking at to reduce costs is engine RPMs. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I think they said it cost about $1M to gain 100 RPM from where they&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; &gt; at now. &#160;And either Gary or Ray Evernham this week mentioned they&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; &gt; approaching 10,000 now. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yes, I heard that to. &#160;It very much gave me the impression that &lt;br /&gt; Nelson doesn&#039;t have a clue, which is strange because as a crew &lt;br /&gt; chief he was accounted one of the slyest. &#160;I suspect there&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; something unpopular planned, which Nelson was carefully skirting &lt;br /&gt; around. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In any event, if you pass some rule limiting RPM, say a gear &lt;br /&gt; rule, then everyone will just spend $1million to make power &lt;br /&gt; some other way. &#160;The only reason they&#039;re going after RPM now &lt;br /&gt; is that it&#039;s the easiest way (which means, if they pass a gear &lt;br /&gt; rule, that everyone will be spending money for increasingly &lt;br /&gt; smaller gains, and the cars will be more equal and more boring &lt;br /&gt; than ever). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only way they can prevent the teams from spending money on &lt;br /&gt; trying to improve the engine is to require a spec engine, which &lt;br /&gt; Nelson said they weren&#039;t going to do. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Scott &lt;ssco&#8230;@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote in <br /> news:bh4d8096ed2sjncfg1nh669jml5p08i95l@4ax.com: <br /> 
<p>&gt; One of the things they&#8217;re looking at to reduce costs is engine RPMs. <br /> &gt; I think they said it cost about $1M to gain 100 RPM from where they&#8217;re <br /> &gt; at now. &nbsp;And either Gary or Ray Evernham this week mentioned they&#8217;re <br /> &gt; approaching 10,000 now. </p>
<p>Yes, I heard that to. &nbsp;It very much gave me the impression that <br /> Nelson doesn&#8217;t have a clue, which is strange because as a crew <br /> chief he was accounted one of the slyest. &nbsp;I suspect there&#8217;s <br /> something unpopular planned, which Nelson was carefully skirting <br /> around.  </p>
<p>In any event, if you pass some rule limiting RPM, say a gear <br /> rule, then everyone will just spend $1million to make power <br /> some other way. &nbsp;The only reason they&#8217;re going after RPM now <br /> is that it&#8217;s the easiest way (which means, if they pass a gear <br /> rule, that everyone will be spending money for increasingly <br /> smaller gains, and the cars will be more equal and more boring <br /> than ever).  </p>
<p>The only way they can prevent the teams from spending money on <br /> trying to improve the engine is to require a spec engine, which <br /> Nelson said they weren&#8217;t going to do.  </p>
<p>John </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Steve Scott&quot; &lt;ssco...@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:bh4d8096ed2sjncfg1nh669jml5p08i95l@4ax.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Gary Nelson was on Inside Nextel Cup last week (I think) and this was &lt;br /&gt; &gt; one of the things discussed. &#160;If I remember right one of his main &lt;br /&gt; &gt; points was if you said an average team needed $15M a year the car &lt;br /&gt; &gt; accounted for about $5M of that. &#160;So while they were looking at things &lt;br /&gt; &gt; to reduce car costs working on the $10M portion could yield better &lt;br /&gt; &gt; results. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I think he said the &quot;Rule Book&quot; takes up 5 million of it. That wouldn&#039;t mean &lt;br /&gt; the whole car, just the stuff you have to have on the car or a certain way &lt;br /&gt; on the car to make it legal. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Michael &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Steve Scott&quot; &lt;ssco&#8230;@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote in message </p>
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<p>&gt; Gary Nelson was on Inside Nextel Cup last week (I think) and this was <br /> &gt; one of the things discussed. &nbsp;If I remember right one of his main <br /> &gt; points was if you said an average team needed $15M a year the car <br /> &gt; accounted for about $5M of that. &nbsp;So while they were looking at things <br /> &gt; to reduce car costs working on the $10M portion could yield better <br /> &gt; results. </p>
<p>I think he said the &quot;Rule Book&quot; takes up 5 million of it. That wouldn&#8217;t mean <br /> the whole car, just the stuff you have to have on the car or a certain way <br /> on the car to make it legal.  </p>
<p>Michael </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  On 21 Apr 2004 04:15:05 GMT, Steve Scott &lt;ssco...@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;I think it&#039;s Brett, not Todd. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Right. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And one of his tasks is to work on &quot;the car of the future,&quot; &lt;br /&gt; which is supposed to help make the sport less expensive. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wonder what will come of that? &#160;NASCAR-chassis? &lt;br /&gt; Sheet-metal stamping plants? &#160;One-design engines? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Marty &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 21 Apr 2004 04:15:05 GMT, Steve Scott &lt;ssco&#8230;@twcny.rr.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt;I think it&#8217;s Brett, not Todd. </p>
<p>Right.  </p>
<p>And one of his tasks is to work on &quot;the car of the future,&quot; <br /> which is supposed to help make the sport less expensive.  </p>
<p>Wonder what will come of that? &nbsp;NASCAR-chassis? <br /> Sheet-metal stamping plants? &nbsp;One-design engines?  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marty </p>
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