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Waning popularity?

I just got back from BGN practice at TMS.  There was only ONE Dale Earnhardt
Sr. souvenir trailer there.  There used to be three.  Maybe DE Sr’s
popularity is waning.  After all, it has been 3 years +.  I sure miss
watching DE Sr race.

I’m still bitter at NASCAR management for letting 4 drivers die of head
trauma before doing something about it.  It took the death of a legend and
the most visible symbol of the sport to get proactive and even then, I think
they were in denial for almost a year after DE Sr’s death.

Rest in Peace, Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin Jr, Tony Roper, and DE Sr.  You
didn’t have to die so young.

Bring on SAFER walls.

Sorry, I got carried away, but death is a very serious thing to me.

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Let's vote, I'm curious

I’m curious about perceptions of active or recent past Winston Cup drivers.
I’m wondering if the group in general can name the driver who they think
crashes the least and the most.

My perception is that Robert Pressley is a magnet for crashes.  I cannot
remember many races he was in that he didn’t wind up in the wall.

On the other hand, I hardly remember a single crash by Terry Labonte.  I
remember the second year Texas was hosting a WC race (1998), on Friday,
there was practice and Terry spun out into the infield grass.  Bobby Labonte
came on the scanner and said, "Man, something is really wrong with this
track. Texas Terry just doesn’t spin out for no good reason."  Well, as you
all might remember, that was in the dark days when water was seeping up
through the track so there really was something wrong with the track.  Maybe
that’s why I recollect Terry Labonte as one driver who just doesn’t get into
many accidents.

So, I’m just curious, does anybody else want to chime in with their vote for
the driver who they think crashes the most and the least?

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Alan Kulwicki

Let’s not forget that the greatest owner driver ever lost his life on
this day in 1993.
Alan Kulwicki
RIP AK7

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Justice for Jr.

Jr. deserves all the penilty that NASCAR can dish out. If his Dad was still
around Jr would still be dizzy from the slap he would have given him. Not
for spinning out but for opening his big mouth about it. I seem to remember
several years ago at Bristol Sr took care of Terry LaBonte and just smiled
and said I really didn’t mean to spin him.

Learn something Jr.

And I am a DEI fan this kid just needs to learn a thing or two.

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Behind the scenes

Scene:  IROC race at TMS, Friday night, 35 or 40 laps into the race.

Background:  Listening to race broadcast (and wondering why the #1 Team of
Joy, McReynolds, and Hammond) are doing this race for Speed.

Race Action:  Not much.  11 cars in single file with about a second between
each car.  Early action had Kurt Busch take Matt Kenseth out when Kurt
bounced off the wall.  Sometimes, it’s the innocent that suffer.  Kurt’s car
was OK to continue, Matt’s was not.

Booth Chatter (during commercial):  Mike:  I’ve already worked all the
puzzles, does anybody have any cards?  Larry:  Well, I’ve already told 40
minutes worth of stories.  I’m all storied out.  Mike:  They should have put
the roof spoilers on the cars so they could race together.   They just can’t
suck up to the car in front.

Rejoin the race broadcast after commercial:  Wow, what an exciting race!!!
You just know that Harvick is saving something for the end.  We’re going to
have a shootout of a finish.

Lesson:  It’s all about the show and it’s the broadcaster’s job to make it
interesting sometimes when the racing ain’t that interesting.

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Texas Results (SPOILER)

Great to see ES get his second win!

KK: the real deal.  Is he going to top Tony Stewart’s
rookie season?

I only caught a few snippets on the radio–start,
some of the late middle, and just after the end.
Sounded like an interesting race.  Just ten or
eleven cars on the lead lap.  

JG’s gotta be doing the coulda-shoulda-woulda
dance.  Seems like he was close in the last 60
laps or so.

                                Marty

>From Sue’s Racin’ News ‘n’ Views

RACE RESULTS (Unofficial)  From RacinNews.com
 1 38 Elliott Sadler       Ford
 2  9 Kasey Kahne  R       Dodge
 3 24 Jeff Gordon          Chevy
 4  8 Dale Earnhardt, Jr.  Chevy
 5  2 Rusty Wallace        Dodge
 6 97 Kurt Busch           Ford
 7 41 Casey Mears          Dodge
 8 20 Tony Stewart         Chevy
 9 48 Jimmie Johnson       Chevy
10 42 Jamie McMurray       Dodge
11 23 Dave Blaney          Dodge
12 25 Brian Vickers  R     Chevy
13 29 Kevin Harvick        Chevy
14 01 Joe Nemechek         Chevy
15 10 Scott Riggs  R       Chevy
16 17 Matt Kenseth         Ford
17  6 Mark Martin          Ford
18 88 Dale Jarrett         Ford
19 49 Ken Schrader         Dodge
20 15 Michael Waltrip      Chevy
21 45 Kyle Petty           Dodge
22 21 Ricky Rudd           Ford
23 31 Robby Gordon         Chevy
24 30 Johnny Sauter  R     Chevy
25 18 Bobby Labonte        Chevy
26 40 Sterling Marlin      Dodge
27 99 Jeff Burton          Ford
28 32 Ricky Craven         Chevy
29  4 Jimmy Spencer        Chevy
30 14 Larry Foyt           Dodge
31 16 Greg Biffle          Ford
32  0 Ward Burton          Chevy
33 22 Scott Wimmer  R      Dodge
34 19 Jeremy Mayfield      Dodge
35 43 Jeff Green           Dodge
36 91 Bill Elliott         Dodge
37 50 Derrike Cope         Dodge
38 77 Brendan Gaughan  R   Dodge
39 12 Ryan Newman          Dodge
40 09 Johnny Benson        Dodge
41  5 Terry Labonte        Chevy
42 172 Kirk Shelmerdine    Ford
43 198 Todd Bodine         Ford

~~~
Points  (Unofficial)  From RacinNews.com
http://www.racinnews.com

1 Kurt Busch            1032      +1
2 Matt Kenseth          1013 -19  -1
3 Dale Earnhardt, Jr.    997 -35
4 Tony Stewart           946 -86
5 Elliott Sadler         942 -90  +4
6 Jimmie Johnson         923 -109
7 Kasey Kahne R          902 -130 +4
8 Kevin Harvick          897 -135 -1
9 Jeff Gordon            891 -141 +3
10 Ryan Newman           834 -198 -5
11 Rusty Wallace         825 -207
12 Jeremy Mayfield       825 -207
13 Jamie McMurray        818 -214
14 Sterling Marlin       817 -215
15 Bobby Labonte         801 -231
16 Mark Martin           789 -243
17 Joe Nemechek          776 -256
18 Casey Mears           752 -280
19 Greg Biffle           745 -287
20 Dale Jarrett          721 -311
21 Scott Wimmer R        719 -313
22 Ward Burton           714 -318
23 Terry Labonte         678 -354
24 Johnny Sauter R       674 -358
25 Robby Gordon          673 -359
26 Brian Vickers R       634 -398
27 Ken Schrader          630 -402
28 Kyle Petty            611 -421
29 Brendan Gaughan R     604 -428
30 Jeff Burton           582 -450
31 Ricky Rudd            577 -455
32 Ricky Craven          573 -459
33 Michael Waltrip       559 -473
34 Scott Riggs R         552 -480
35 Jeff Green            535 -497
36 Derrike Cope          484 -548
37 Kevin Lepage          426 -606
38 Dave Blaney           378 -654
39 Kirk Shelmerdine      237 -795
40 Larry Foyt            219 -813
41 John Andretti         205 -827
42 Johnny Benson         195 -837
43 Andy Hillenburg       169 -863
44 Jimmy Spencer         167 -865
45 Bill Elliott          163 -869
46 Joe Ruttman           139 -893
47 Andy Belmont           98 -934
48 Carl Long              98 -934
49 Mike Skinner           97 -935
50 Morgan Shepherd        91 -941
51 Todd Bodine            82 -950
52 Hermie Sadler          70 -962
53 Stanton Barrett        67 -965
54 Geoffrey Bodine        46 -986
55 Kyle Busch             40 -992

~~~
Manufacturer Championship  (Unofficial) (VERY, VERY Unofficial) (this
is
just a guide ONLY)

Pos. Manu.  Pnts Wins
 1  Ford    48    4
 2  Chevy   43    3
 3  Dodge   42    0

~~~
Rookie of the Year  (Unofficial) (VERY, VERY Unofficial)
(this is just a guide ONLY)

   Driver          Pts Wins
1 Kasey Kahne      97
2 Scott Wimmer     69
3 Johnny Sauter    59
4 Brian Vickers    59
5 Brendan Gaughan  54
6 Scott Riggs      52

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rjunk is good to go

Chris Jenkins says that redneckjunk.com is going to be
allowed to sponsor a car as rjunk.com:

<http://makeashorterlink.com/?M2D0218C7>

Every little bit helps, I guess.

                                Marty

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Should Be Sponsors…

Well, Me & The wife got together one day and thought… what if the universe
was in harmony and drivers had sponsers that were reflections of themselves.

What did we come up with?

Kevin Harvick- Ritalin
Sterling Marlin- Hooked On Phonics
Jr. – Trojins
Jeff Gordon-NAMBLA
Ward Burton- NRA
Jimmy Spencer- Krispy Kreme
Ryan Newman- Head & Shoulders (get it?)
Todd Bodine- Crappy Car Insurance Company

What ya got?

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Darlington Results (SPOILER)

I wonder whether Tony Stewart got called to the Oval Office
for whacking KK.

"Let the one among you who has never rubbed quarter
panels throw the first stone."

RACE RESULTS (Unofficial)  From RacinNews.com

 1  48 Jimmie Johnson      Chevy
 2  18 Bobby Labonte       Chevy
 3  12 Ryan Newman         Dodge
 4  31 Robby Gordon        Chevy
 5  38 Elliott Sadler      Ford
 6  97 Kurt Busch          Ford
 7   6 Mark Martin         Ford
 8  29 Kevin Harvick       Chevy
 9  19 Jeremy Mayfield     Dodge
10   8 Dale Earnhardt Jr.  Chevy
11  99 Jeff Burton         Ford
12  16 Greg Biffle         Ford
13   9 Kasey Kahne  R      Dodge
14  40 Sterling Marlin     Dodge
15  41 Casey Mears         Dodge
16  22 Scott Wimmer  R     Dodge
17  20 Tony Stewart        Chevy
18   0 Ward Burton         Chevy
19   5 Terry Labonte       Chevy
20  01 Joe Nemechek        Chevy
21  42 Jamie McMurray      Dodge
22  49 Ken Schrader        Dodge
23  25 Brian Vickers  R    Chevy
24  43 Jeff Green          Dodge
25  50 Derrike Cope        Dodge
26  30 Johnny Sauter  R    Chevy
27  77 Brendan Gaughan  R  Dodge
28   4 Kevin Lepage        Chevy
29   2 Rusty Wallace       Dodge
30  10 Scott Riggs  R      Chevy
31  17 Matt Kenseth        Ford
32  88 Dale Jarrett        Ford
33  21 Ricky Rudd          Ford
34  45 Kyle Petty          Dodge
35  15 Michael Waltrip     Chevy
36  32 Ricky Craven        Chevy
37   2 Andy Belmont        Pont.
38  89 Morgan Shepherd     Dodge
39 172 Kirk Shelmerdine    Ford
40 198 Todd Bodine         Ford
41  24 Jeff Gordon         Chevy
42 280 Andy Hillenburg     Ford
43   9 Joe Ruttman         Dodge

~~~
Points  (Unofficial)  From RacinNews.com
http://www.racinnews.com
 1  Matt Kenseth         743
 2  Dale Earnhardt, Jr.  722  +1
 3  Tony Stewart         708  -1
 4  Kurt Busch           687  +2
 5  Kasey Kahne R        679  -1
 6  Jimmie Johnson       665  +3
 7  Jeremy Mayfield      652
 8  Bobby Labonte        644  +2
 9  Ryan Newman          637  +2
10  Elliott Sadler       636  -2
11  Kevin Harvick        608
12  Mark Martin          583
12  Jeff Gordon          583
14  Joe Nemechek         568
14  Ward Burton          568
16  Sterling Marlin      562
17  Casey Mears          551
18  Greg Biffle          543
19  Jamie McMurray       542
20  Scott Wimmer R       531
21  Terry Labonte        529
22  Dale Jarrett         512
23  Rusty Wallace        490
24  Robby Gordon         468
25  Johnny Sauter R      455
26  Brendan Gaughan R    452
27  Jeff Burton          451
28  Brian Vickers R      449
29  Ricky Rudd           428
30  Kyle Petty           418
31  Jeff Green           401
32  Ricky Craven         397
33  Ken Schrader         374
34  Scott Riggs R        373
35  Kevin Lepage         353
36  Derrike Cope         347
37  Michael Waltrip      322
38  Dave Blaney          248
39  John Andretti        205
40  Kirk Shelmerdine     160
41  Johnny Benson        152
42  Larry Foyt           146
43  Andy Hillenburg      135
44  Bill Elliott         103
45  Joe Ruttman          102
46  Andy Belmont          98
46  Carl Long             98
48  Mike Skinner          97
49  Morgan Shepherd       91
49  Jimmy Spencer         91
51  Todd Bodine           48
52  Kyle Busch            40

~~~
Manufacturer Championship  (Unofficial) (VERY, VERY Unofficial) (this
is
just a guide ONLY)

Pos. Manu.  Pnts Wins
 1   Chevy   35   3
 2   Ford    32   2
 2   Dodge   28   0

How Manufacturer points are awarded: 1st -9 points, 2nd-6 pts, 3rd-4
pts

~~~
Rookie of the Year  (Unofficial) (VERY, VERY Unofficial)
(this is just a guide ONLY)

   Driver          Pts Wins
 1 Kasey Kahne     75
 2 Scott Wimmer    51
 3 Johnny Sauter   42
 4 Brian Vickers   42
 5 Brendan Gaughan 39
 6 Scott Riggs     35

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